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* UNH - DMARC issue
@ 2023-02-02 14:42 Aaron Conole
  2023-02-08  9:02 ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Conole @ 2023-02-02 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: techboard; +Cc: Lincoln Lavoie, ci

Hi all,

UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
the lab.

I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
to make sure you're aware.

-Aaron


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* RE: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-02-02 14:42 UNH - DMARC issue Aaron Conole
@ 2023-02-08  9:02 ` Ali Alnubani
  2023-02-08 15:36   ` Lincoln Lavoie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-02-08  9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Aaron Conole, techboard, Lincoln Lavoie; +Cc: ci

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: techboard@dpdk.org
> Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>; ci@dpdk.org
> Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> the lab.
> 
> I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> to make sure you're aware.
> 
> -Aaron

Hello, and apologies for the delay,

I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.

Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?

Thanks,
Ali

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-02-08  9:02 ` Ali Alnubani
@ 2023-02-08 15:36   ` Lincoln Lavoie
  2023-02-08 16:19     ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lincoln Lavoie @ 2023-02-08 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ali Alnubani; +Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, Lincoln Lavoie, ci


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HI Ali,

The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
example is one that failed, correct?

Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation,
just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does
the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was
more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > To: techboard@dpdk.org
> > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>; ci@dpdk.org
> > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > the lab.
> >
> > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > to make sure you're aware.
> >
> > -Aaron
>
> Hello, and apologies for the delay,
>
> I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't
> see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
>
> Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't
> being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
>
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>
> Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>


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* RE: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-02-08 15:36   ` Lincoln Lavoie
@ 2023-02-08 16:19     ` Ali Alnubani
  2023-02-28 20:56       ` Lincoln Lavoie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-02-08 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lincoln Lavoie; +Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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> Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.

> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.

Regards,
Ali

From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>; ci@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

HI Ali,

The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi all,
>
> UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> the lab.
>
> I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> to make sure you're aware.
>
> -Aaron

Hello, and apologies for the delay,

I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.

Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?

Thanks,
Ali


--
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Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-02-08 16:19     ` Ali Alnubani
@ 2023-02-28 20:56       ` Lincoln Lavoie
  2023-03-01 13:10         ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lincoln Lavoie @ 2023-02-28 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ali Alnubani; +Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hi Ali,

We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you confirm
if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am also
also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to see if
failures are still being reported to us.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:

> > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
>
>
>
> Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
>
>
>
> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>
>
>
> Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking
> DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Ali
>
>
>
> *From:* Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
> *To:* Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
> *Cc:* Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; Lincoln
> Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>; ci@dpdk.org
> *Subject:* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>
>
>
> HI Ali,
>
>
>
> The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
> internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
> example is one that failed, correct?
>
>
>
> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation,
> just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does
> the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was
> more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > To: techboard@dpdk.org
> > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>; ci@dpdk.org
> > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > the lab.
> >
> > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > to make sure you're aware.
> >
> > -Aaron
>
> Hello, and apologies for the delay,
>
> I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't
> see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
>
> Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't
> being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
>
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>
> Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Lincoln Lavoie*
>
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
>
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>
> <https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>


-- 
*Lincoln Lavoie*
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
<https://www.iol.unh.edu>

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* RE: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-02-28 20:56       ` Lincoln Lavoie
@ 2023-03-01 13:10         ` Ali Alnubani
  2023-03-01 19:52           ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-03-01 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lincoln Lavoie; +Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hi Lincoln,

Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your client:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

I’m checking if there is something I missed.

Regards,
Ali

From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

Hi Ali,

We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to see if failures are still being reported to us.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.

> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.

Regards,
Ali

From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

HI Ali,

The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi all,
>
> UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> the lab.
>
> I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> to make sure you're aware.
>
> -Aaron

Hello, and apologies for the delay,

I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.

Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?

Thanks,
Ali


--
Lincoln Lavoie
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>


--
Lincoln Lavoie
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>

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* RE: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-03-01 13:10         ` Ali Alnubani
@ 2023-03-01 19:52           ` Ali Alnubani
  2023-03-01 20:21             ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-03-01 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lincoln Lavoie; +Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hello,

After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will update hopefully by end of next week.

Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being encoded.

Regards,
Ali

From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue

Hi Lincoln,

Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your client:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

I’m checking if there is something I missed.

Regards,
Ali

From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

Hi Ali,

We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to see if failures are still being reported to us.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.

> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.

Regards,
Ali

From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

HI Ali,

The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?

Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi all,
>
> UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> the lab.
>
> I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> to make sure you're aware.
>
> -Aaron

Hello, and apologies for the delay,

I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.

Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/

Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?

Thanks,
Ali


--
Lincoln Lavoie
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>


--
Lincoln Lavoie
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>

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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-03-01 19:52           ` Ali Alnubani
@ 2023-03-01 20:21             ` Thomas Monjalon
  2023-03-01 20:35               ` Lincoln Lavoie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2023-03-01 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lincoln Lavoie, Ali Alnubani; +Cc: techboard, Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?


01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
> Hello,
> 
> After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will update hopefully by end of next week.
> 
> Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being encoded.
> 
> Regards,
> Ali
> 
> From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
> To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
> Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
> 
> Hi Lincoln,
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
> Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your client:
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> 
> I’m checking if there is something I missed.
> 
> Regards,
> Ali
> 
> From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
> To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> 
> Hi Ali,
> 
> We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to see if failures are still being reported to us.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
> 
> Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
> 
> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> 
> Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
> 
> Regards,
> Ali
> 
> From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
> To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> 
> HI Ali,
> 
> The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
> 
> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
> 
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > the lab.
> >
> > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > to make sure you're aware.
> >
> > -Aaron
> 
> Hello, and apologies for the delay,
> 
> I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
> 
> Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> 
> Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ali
> 
> 
> --
> Lincoln Lavoie
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> 
> 
> --
> Lincoln Lavoie
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> 






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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-03-01 20:21             ` Thomas Monjalon
@ 2023-03-01 20:35               ` Lincoln Lavoie
  2023-03-02 10:42                 ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Lincoln Lavoie @ 2023-03-01 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Monjalon; +Cc: Ali Alnubani, Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hi Ali,

Yes, plain text is here to stay, it's been updated in all of our tooling.

We can also limit the subject lines.  Do you know the "safe" length from
mailman?

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:

> Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
> Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?
>
>
> 01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
> > Hello,
> >
> > After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken
> DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are
> folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform
> with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per
> list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will
> update hopefully by end of next week.
> >
> > Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now
> in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being
> encoded.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
> > To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
> > Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi Lincoln,
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
> > Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are
> still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your
> client:
> >
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> >
> > I’m checking if there is something I missed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
> ci@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi Ali,
> >
> > We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you
> confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am
> also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to
> see if failures are still being reported to us.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lincoln
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:
> alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
> >
> > Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
> >
> > > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> >
> > Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking
> DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <
> lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
> ci@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > HI Ali,
> >
> > The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
> internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
> example is one that failed, correct?
> >
> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lincoln
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:
> alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> > > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>;
> ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> > > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > > the lab.
> > >
> > > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > > to make sure you're aware.
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> >
> > Hello, and apologies for the delay,
> >
> > I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't
> see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
> >
> > Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc
> isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
> >
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> >
> > Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ali
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lincoln Lavoie
> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> > [
> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lincoln Lavoie
> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> > [
> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*Lincoln Lavoie*
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
<https://www.iol.unh.edu>

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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-03-01 20:35               ` Lincoln Lavoie
@ 2023-03-02 10:42                 ` Ali Alnubani
  2023-05-18 21:07                   ` Patrick Robb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-03-02 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lincoln Lavoie, NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)
  Cc: Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hello,

I see that it's keeping the subject header intact for up to 70 characters:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302085826.D4061601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
> Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124617 [PATCH] [v3] vhost: fix madvise arguments alignment

A subject of 71 char length is being folded:
https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302101540.558F0601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
> Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124605 [PATCH] [v2] net/idpf: refine Rx/Tx queue model
>  info

I didn't look into how exactly the folding algorithm for the python email library works though. Maybe cap at 64-68 to be safe?

You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the subject I guess?

Thanks,
Ali

________________________________
From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:35 PM
To: NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>; Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org <techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org <ci@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue

Hi Ali,

Yes, plain text is here to stay, it's been updated in all of our tooling.

We can also limit the subject lines.  Do you know the "safe" length from mailman?

Cheers,
Lincoln

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net<mailto:thomas@monjalon.net>> wrote:
Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?


01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
> Hello,
>
> After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will update hopefully by end of next week.
>
> Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being encoded.
>
> Regards,
> Ali
>
> From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
> To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi Lincoln,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
> Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your client:
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>
> I’m checking if there is something I missed.
>
> Regards,
> Ali
>
> From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
> To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com><mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com><mailto:aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org><mailto:techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org><mailto:ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>>
> Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi Ali,
>
> We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to see if failures are still being reported to us.
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com><mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>> wrote:
> > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
>
> Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
>
> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>
> Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
>
> Regards,
> Ali
>
> From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
> To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com><mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>>
> Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com><mailto:aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>>; techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org><mailto:techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>>; Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org><mailto:ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>>
> Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> HI Ali,
>
> The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
>
> Changing the content / format type will need a little more investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com><mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com><mailto:aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org><mailto:techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>>
> > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org><mailto:ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>>
> > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > the lab.
> >
> > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > to make sure you're aware.
> >
> > -Aaron
>
> Hello, and apologies for the delay,
>
> I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
>
> Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>
> Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>
>
> --
> Lincoln Lavoie
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>
>
> --
> Lincoln Lavoie
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu><mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>







--
Lincoln Lavoie
Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
https://www.iol.unh.edu
+1-603-674-2755 (m)
[https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI]<https://www.iol.unh.edu>

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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-03-02 10:42                 ` Ali Alnubani
@ 2023-05-18 21:07                   ` Patrick Robb
  2023-05-22 13:43                     ` Patrick Robb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Robb @ 2023-05-18 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ali Alnubani
  Cc: Lincoln Lavoie, NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL),
	Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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>
> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
> subject I guess?

I think I'll just take the existing subject line string and at the end cut
all characters after 68. That way we can at least get 20 or so characters
from the commit message summary in there, which will look kind of weird but
some summary is better than nothing.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 5:43 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I see that it's keeping the subject header intact for up to 70 characters:
>
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302085826.D4061601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124617 [PATCH] [v3] vhost: fix madvise arguments
> alignment
>
> A subject of 71 char length is being folded:
>
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302101540.558F0601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124605 [PATCH] [v2] net/idpf: refine Rx/Tx queue
> model
> >  info
>
> I didn't look into how exactly the folding algorithm for the python email
> library works though. Maybe cap at 64-68 to be safe?
>
> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
> subject I guess?
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:35 PM
> *To:* NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>
> *Cc:* Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>; Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>;
> techboard@dpdk.org <techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org <ci@dpdk.org>
> *Subject:* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>
> Hi Ali,
>
> Yes, plain text is here to stay, it's been updated in all of our tooling.
>
> We can also limit the subject lines.  Do you know the "safe" length from
> mailman?
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
> Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?
>
>
> 01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
> > Hello,
> >
> > After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken
> DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are
> folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform
> with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per
> list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will
> update hopefully by end of next week.
> >
> > Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now
> in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being
> encoded.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
> > To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
> > Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi Lincoln,
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
> > Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are
> still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your
> client:
> >
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> >
> > I’m checking if there is something I missed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
> ci@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > Hi Ali,
> >
> > We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you
> confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am
> also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to
> see if failures are still being reported to us.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lincoln
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:
> alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
> >
> > Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
> >
> > > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> >
> > Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking
> DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <
> lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
> ci@dpdk.org>
> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
> >
> > HI Ali,
> >
> > The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
> internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
> example is one that failed, correct?
> >
> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lincoln
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:
> alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
> > > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
> > > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>;
> ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
> > > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement "soon."
> > > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
> > > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
> > > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list to
> > > the lab.
> > >
> > > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
> > > to make sure you're aware.
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> >
> > Hello, and apologies for the delay,
> >
> > I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I don't
> see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
> >
> > Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc
> isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
> >
> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
> >
> > Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ali
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lincoln Lavoie
> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> > [
> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lincoln Lavoie
> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> > [
> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Lincoln Lavoie*
> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
> https://www.iol.unh.edu
> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
> <https://www.iol.unh.edu>
>


-- 

Patrick Robb

Technical Service Manager

UNH InterOperability Laboratory

21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824

www.iol.unh.edu

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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-05-18 21:07                   ` Patrick Robb
@ 2023-05-22 13:43                     ` Patrick Robb
  2023-05-22 18:45                       ` Patrick Robb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Robb @ 2023-05-22 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ali Alnubani
  Cc: Lincoln Lavoie, NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL),
	Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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We started limiting the subject line length over the weekend, so this
should be all resolved now. Ali please let us know if there are any issues.

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 5:07 PM Patrick Robb <probb@iol.unh.edu> wrote:

> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
>> subject I guess?
>
> I think I'll just take the existing subject line string and at the end cut
> all characters after 68. That way we can at least get 20 or so characters
> from the commit message summary in there, which will look kind of weird but
> some summary is better than nothing.
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 5:43 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I see that it's keeping the subject header intact for up to 70 characters:
>>
>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302085826.D4061601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
>> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124617 [PATCH] [v3] vhost: fix madvise arguments
>> alignment
>>
>> A subject of 71 char length is being folded:
>>
>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302101540.558F0601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
>> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124605 [PATCH] [v2] net/idpf: refine Rx/Tx queue
>> model
>> >  info
>>
>> I didn't look into how exactly the folding algorithm for the python email
>> library works though. Maybe cap at 64-68 to be safe?
>>
>> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
>> subject I guess?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ali
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:35 PM
>> *To:* NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>
>> *Cc:* Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>; Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>;
>> techboard@dpdk.org <techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org <ci@dpdk.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>>
>> Hi Ali,
>>
>> Yes, plain text is here to stay, it's been updated in all of our
>> tooling.
>>
>> We can also limit the subject lines.  Do you know the "safe" length from
>> mailman?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lincoln
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
>> Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?
>>
>>
>> 01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken
>> DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are
>> folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform
>> with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per
>> list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will
>> update hopefully by end of next week.
>> >
>> > Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable now
>> in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer being
>> encoded.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ali
>> >
>> > From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
>> > To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
>> > Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
>> >
>> > Hi Lincoln,
>> >
>> > Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
>> > Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are
>> still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your
>> client:
>> >
>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>> >
>> > I’m checking if there is something I missed.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ali
>> >
>> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>> >>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
>> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
>> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
>> ci@dpdk.org>
>> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>> >
>> > Hi Ali,
>> >
>> > We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you
>> confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am
>> also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to
>> see if failures are still being reported to us.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Lincoln
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com
>> <mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
>> > > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
>> >
>> > Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
>> >
>> > > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
>> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
>> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
>> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>> >
>> > Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman, breaking
>> DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ali
>> >
>> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>> >>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
>> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
>> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <
>> lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
>> ci@dpdk.org>
>> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>> >
>> > HI Ali,
>> >
>> > The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
>> internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
>> example is one that failed, correct?
>> >
>> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
>> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
>> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
>> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Lincoln
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:
>> alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
>> > > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
>> > > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>;
>> ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
>> > > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
>> > >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement
>> "soon."
>> > > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
>> > > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
>> > > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list
>> to
>> > > the lab.
>> > >
>> > > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email here
>> > > to make sure you're aware.
>> > >
>> > > -Aaron
>> >
>> > Hello, and apologies for the delay,
>> >
>> > I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I
>> don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
>> >
>> > Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc
>> isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
>> >
>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>> >
>> > Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
>> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ali
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lincoln Lavoie
>> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
>> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>> > [
>> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
>> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lincoln Lavoie
>> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
>> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>> > [
>> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
>> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Lincoln Lavoie*
>> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>> https://www.iol.unh.edu
>> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>> <https://www.iol.unh.edu>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Patrick Robb
>
> Technical Service Manager
>
> UNH InterOperability Laboratory
>
> 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824
>
> www.iol.unh.edu
>
>
>

-- 

Patrick Robb

Technical Service Manager

UNH InterOperability Laboratory

21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824

www.iol.unh.edu

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* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-05-22 13:43                     ` Patrick Robb
@ 2023-05-22 18:45                       ` Patrick Robb
  2023-05-23  6:46                         ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Robb @ 2023-05-22 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ali Alnubani
  Cc: Lincoln Lavoie, NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL),
	Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

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Hi Ali,

We ran a DMARC report which showed errors on Friday, but none since then.
Given that there have been patch series submitted over the weekend, this
appears to be resolved now.

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 9:43 AM Patrick Robb <probb@iol.unh.edu> wrote:

> We started limiting the subject line length over the weekend, so this
> should be all resolved now. Ali please let us know if there are any issues.
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 5:07 PM Patrick Robb <probb@iol.unh.edu> wrote:
>
>> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
>>> subject I guess?
>>
>> I think I'll just take the existing subject line string and at the end
>> cut all characters after 68. That way we can at least get 20 or so
>> characters from the commit message summary in there, which will look kind
>> of weird but some summary is better than nothing.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 5:43 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I see that it's keeping the subject header intact for up to 70
>>> characters:
>>>
>>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302085826.D4061601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
>>> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124617 [PATCH] [v3] vhost: fix madvise arguments
>>> alignment
>>>
>>> A subject of 71 char length is being folded:
>>>
>>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230302101540.558F0601DC@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/raw
>>> > Subject: |SUCCESS| pw124605 [PATCH] [v2] net/idpf: refine Rx/Tx queue
>>> model
>>> >  info
>>>
>>> I didn't look into how exactly the folding algorithm for the python
>>> email library works though. Maybe cap at 64-68 to be safe?
>>>
>>> You'd have to cap it by removing the commit message summary from the
>>> subject I guess?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ali
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 1, 2023 10:35 PM
>>> *To:* NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>
>>> *Cc:* Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>; Aaron Conole <
>>> aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org <techboard@dpdk.org>;
>>> ci@dpdk.org <ci@dpdk.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>>>
>>> Hi Ali,
>>>
>>> Yes, plain text is here to stay, it's been updated in all of our
>>> tooling.
>>>
>>> We can also limit the subject lines.  Do you know the "safe" length from
>>> mailman?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Lincoln
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:21 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Instead of patching, can we just make sure the subject is shorter?
>>> Is there an impact in limiting the subject length?
>>>
>>>
>>> 01/03/2023 20:52, Ali Alnubani:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > After further investigation, I see now that some reports have broken
>>> DKIM signatures because Mailman (or the email libraries it uses) are
>>> folding their long subject headers into multiple lines, probably to conform
>>> with internet standards. There isn’t a configuration to control this per
>>> list in Mailman though, so I might have to look into patching it. Will
>>> update hopefully by end of next week.
>>> >
>>> > Can you keep the emails in plaintext format? They are more readable
>>> now in https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/ as the body is no longer
>>> being encoded.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Ali
>>> >
>>> > From: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 3:10 PM
>>> > To: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>; techboard@dpdk.org; ci@dpdk.org
>>> > Subject: RE: UNH - DMARC issue
>>> >
>>> > Hi Lincoln,
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for taking the time to make the change.
>>> > Unfortunately, however, I see that even some of the plaintext ones are
>>> still failing DMARC. This is an example if you want to check from your
>>> client:
>>> >
>>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230301075112.591AB601B1@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>>> >
>>> > I’m checking if there is something I missed.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Ali
>>> >
>>> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>>> >>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:57 PM
>>> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
>>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
>>> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
>>> ci@dpdk.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>>> >
>>> > Hi Ali,
>>> >
>>> > We deployed the change to only plaintext emails last week.  Can you
>>> confirm if this improves things from your side for the DMARC results.  I am
>>> also also our IT admin to pull the reports for the past couple of days to
>>> see if failures are still being reported to us.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Lincoln
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:20 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com
>>> <mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
>>> > > Just to make sure, your example is one that failed, correct?
>>> >
>>> > Correct, the copy I got failed DKIM and DMARC authentication.
>>> >
>>> > > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
>>> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
>>> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
>>> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>>> >
>>> > Non plaintext emails are more likely to be mangled by Mailman,
>>> breaking DKIM signature verification, and DMARC as a result.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Ali
>>> >
>>> > From: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>>> >>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:37 PM
>>> > To: Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com<mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>>
>>> > Cc: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>;
>>> techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>; Lincoln Lavoie <
>>> lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>; ci@dpdk.org<mailto:
>>> ci@dpdk.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: UNH - DMARC issue
>>> >
>>> > HI Ali,
>>> >
>>> > The To / Cc fields all look identical to what was sent / logged on our
>>> internal list.  I've attached the raw stuff email. Just to make sure, your
>>> example is one that failed, correct?
>>> >
>>> > Changing the content / format type will need a little more
>>> investigation, just to make sure the change wouldn't break other emails
>>> being sent. Does the message content type impact the DMARC evaluation?  I
>>> thought it was more about headers, routing, and approved mail hosts, etc.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Lincoln
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 4:02 AM Ali Alnubani <alialnu@nvidia.com
>>> <mailto:alialnu@nvidia.com>> wrote:
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com<mailto:aconole@redhat.com>>
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 4:42 PM
>>> > > To: techboard@dpdk.org<mailto:techboard@dpdk.org>
>>> > > Cc: Lincoln Lavoie <lylavioe@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavioe@iol.unh.edu>>;
>>> ci@dpdk.org<mailto:ci@dpdk.org>
>>> > > Subject: UNH - DMARC issue
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi all,
>>> > >
>>> > > UNH reported that their IT will be turning on DMARC enforcement
>>> "soon."
>>> > > I'm not sure when that will exactly take place, but as part of that,
>>> > > they found there was an issue with the DPDK mailing lists doing some
>>> > > header rewriting which will break email bounces via the mailing list
>>> to
>>> > > the lab.
>>> > >
>>> > > I think Ali is currently investigating, but I'm sending the email
>>> here
>>> > > to make sure you're aware.
>>> > >
>>> > > -Aaron
>>> >
>>> > Hello, and apologies for the delay,
>>> >
>>> > I can confirm that DMARC is failing for some of the reports, but I
>>> don't see obvious mangling to the headers or bodies of these emails.
>>> >
>>> > Can you please help verify that the list of recipients in To and Cc
>>> isn't being mangled for the reports failing DMARC? Example:
>>> >
>>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/test-report/20230208081905.C6CB9600AB@dpdk-ubuntu.dpdklab.iol.unh.edu/
>>> >
>>> > Would it also be possible to switch the format/content-type of these
>>> emails from html to text/plain as way to try and mitigate this?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Ali
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Lincoln Lavoie
>>> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>>> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>>> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>>> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
>>> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>>> > [
>>> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
>>> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Lincoln Lavoie
>>> > Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>>> > 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>>> > lylavoie@iol.unh.edu<mailto:lylavoie@iol.unh.edu>
>>> > https://www.iol.unh.edu
>>> > +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>>> > [
>>> https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xlKa1qM3IJKocZErE7ywuQuw_cfMEDW_tlU6Dw8dHUTWPjdawcJawE6HcYf7_JfXJnr9fvVJI
>>> ]<https://www.iol.unh.edu/>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Lincoln Lavoie*
>>> Principal Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>>> 21 Madbury Rd., Ste. 100, Durham, NH 03824
>>> lylavoie@iol.unh.edu
>>> https://www.iol.unh.edu
>>> +1-603-674-2755 (m)
>>> <https://www.iol.unh.edu>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Patrick Robb
>>
>> Technical Service Manager
>>
>> UNH InterOperability Laboratory
>>
>> 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824
>>
>> www.iol.unh.edu
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Patrick Robb
>
> Technical Service Manager
>
> UNH InterOperability Laboratory
>
> 21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824
>
> www.iol.unh.edu
>
>
>

-- 

Patrick Robb

Technical Service Manager

UNH InterOperability Laboratory

21 Madbury Rd, Suite 100, Durham, NH 03824

www.iol.unh.edu

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* RE: UNH - DMARC issue
  2023-05-22 18:45                       ` Patrick Robb
@ 2023-05-23  6:46                         ` Ali Alnubani
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ali Alnubani @ 2023-05-23  6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patrick Robb
  Cc: Lincoln Lavoie, NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL),
	Aaron Conole, techboard, ci

> Hi Ali,
> 
> We ran a DMARC report which showed errors on Friday, but none since then. Given that there have been patch series submitted over the weekend, this appears to be resolved now. 

Thanks for the update.

Regards,
Ali

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2023-02-08 15:36   ` Lincoln Lavoie
2023-02-08 16:19     ` Ali Alnubani
2023-02-28 20:56       ` Lincoln Lavoie
2023-03-01 13:10         ` Ali Alnubani
2023-03-01 19:52           ` Ali Alnubani
2023-03-01 20:21             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-03-01 20:35               ` Lincoln Lavoie
2023-03-02 10:42                 ` Ali Alnubani
2023-05-18 21:07                   ` Patrick Robb
2023-05-22 13:43                     ` Patrick Robb
2023-05-22 18:45                       ` Patrick Robb
2023-05-23  6:46                         ` Ali Alnubani

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