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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>,
	Dariusz Sosnowski <dsosnowski@nvidia.com>,
	"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ethdev: introduce entropy calculation
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:44:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09acf24d-fc48-44cd-aa4c-9e810bd96f85@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231214092609.1b109278@hermes.local>

On 12/14/2023 5:26 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:18:25 +0000
> Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Since encap groups number of different 5 tuples together, if HW doesn’t know
>>>> how to RSS
>>>> based on the inner application will not be able to get any distribution of  
>>> packets.  
>>>>
>>>> This value is used to reflect the inner packet on the outer header, so  
>>> distribution  
>>>> will be possible.
>>>>
>>>> The main use case is, if application does full offload and implements the encap  
>>> on  
>>>> the RX.
>>>> For example:
>>>> Ingress/FDB  match on 5 tuple encap send to hairpin / different port in case of
>>>> switch.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Smart idea! So basically the user is able to get an idea on how good the RSS
>>> distribution is, correct?
>>>   
>>
>> Not exactly, this simply allows the distribution.
>> Maybe entropy is a bad name, this is the name they use in the protocol, but in reality
>> this is some hash calculated on the packet header before the encap and set in the encap header.
>> Using this hash results in entropy for the packets. Which can be used for load balancing.
>>
>> Maybe better name would be:
>> Rte_flow_calc_entropy_hash?
>>
>> or maybe rte_flow_calc_encap_hash (I like it less since it looks like we calculate the hash on the encap data and not the inner part)
>>
>> what do you think?
> 
> Entropy has meaning in crypto and random numbers generators that is different from
> this usage. So entropy is bad name to use. Maybe rte_flow_hash_distribution?
>

Hi Ori,

Thank you for the description, it is more clear now.

And unless this is specifically defined as 'entropy' in spec, I am too
for rename.

At least in VXLAN spec, it is mentioned that this field is to "enable a
level of entropy", but not exactly names it as entropy.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-15 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-10  8:30 Ori Kam
2023-12-12 12:19 ` Dariusz Sosnowski
2023-12-14 11:34 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-12-14 14:16   ` Ori Kam
2023-12-14 15:25     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2023-12-14 17:18       ` Ori Kam
2023-12-14 17:26         ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-12-15 13:44           ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2023-12-15 16:21             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-12-16  9:03               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-12-27 15:20                 ` Ori Kam
2024-01-04 12:57                   ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2024-01-04 14:33                     ` Ori Kam
2024-01-04 18:18                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-01-07  9:37                         ` Ori Kam
2023-12-16  9:19 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-12-17 10:07   ` Ori Kam
2024-01-12  7:46     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2024-01-21  9:36       ` Ori Kam

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