From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga07.intel.com (mga07.intel.com [134.134.136.100]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC38F1C86C for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 16:10:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga003.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.29]) by orsmga105.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 14 May 2018 07:10:31 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.49,400,1520924400"; d="scan'208";a="49098301" Received: from fyigit-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com (HELO [10.237.221.77]) ([10.237.221.77]) by FMSMGA003.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 14 May 2018 07:10:30 -0700 To: Shahaf Shuler , Andrew Rybchenko , Thomas Monjalon , Wei Dai Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" References: <62020f5c-d34c-3314-a4bf-2587801f5f8c@intel.com> <7eda097f-083c-beb2-08bd-b0847f345064@solarflare.com> From: Ferruh Yigit Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=ferruh.yigit@intel.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFXZCFABEADCujshBOAaqPZpwShdkzkyGpJ15lmxiSr3jVMqOtQS/sB3FYLT0/d3+bvy qbL9YnlbPyRvZfnP3pXiKwkRoR1RJwEo2BOf6hxdzTmLRtGtwWzI9MwrUPj6n/ldiD58VAGQ +iR1I/z9UBUN/ZMksElA2D7Jgg7vZ78iKwNnd+vLBD6I61kVrZ45Vjo3r+pPOByUBXOUlxp9 GWEKKIrJ4eogqkVNSixN16VYK7xR+5OUkBYUO+sE6etSxCr7BahMPKxH+XPlZZjKrxciaWQb +dElz3Ab4Opl+ZT/bK2huX+W+NJBEBVzjTkhjSTjcyRdxvS1gwWRuXqAml/sh+KQjPV1PPHF YK5LcqLkle+OKTCa82OvUb7cr+ALxATIZXQkgmn+zFT8UzSS3aiBBohg3BtbTIWy51jNlYdy ezUZ4UxKSsFuUTPt+JjHQBvF7WKbmNGS3fCid5Iag4tWOfZoqiCNzxApkVugltxoc6rG2TyX CmI2rP0mQ0GOsGXA3+3c1MCdQFzdIn/5tLBZyKy4F54UFo35eOX8/g7OaE+xrgY/4bZjpxC1 1pd66AAtKb3aNXpHvIfkVV6NYloo52H+FUE5ZDPNCGD0/btFGPWmWRmkPybzColTy7fmPaGz cBcEEqHK4T0aY4UJmE7Ylvg255Kz7s6wGZe6IR3N0cKNv++O7QARAQABzSVGZXJydWggWWln aXQgPGZlcnJ1aC55aWdpdEBpbnRlbC5jb20+wsF+BBMBAgAoAhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsE FgIDAQIeAQIXgAUCWZR3VQUJB33WBQAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH6DWEACVhEb8q1epPwZrUDoxzu7E TS1b8tmabOmnjXZRs6+EXgUVHkp2xxkCfDmL3pa5bC0G/74aJnWjNsdvE05V1cb4YK4kRQ62 FwDQ+hlrFrwFB3PtDZk1tpkzCRHvJgnIil+0MuEh32Y57ig6hy8yO8ql7Lohyrnpfk/nNpm4 jQGEF5qEeHcEFe1AZQlPHN/STno8NZSz2nl0b2cw+cujN1krmvB52Ah/2KugQ6pprVyrGrzB c34ZQO9OsmSjJlETCZk6EZzuhfe16iqBFbOSadi9sPcJRwaUQBid+xdFWl7GQ8qC3zNPibSF HmU43yBZUqJDZlhIcl6/cFpOSjv2sDWdtjEXTDn5y/0FsuY0mFE78ItC4kCTIVk17VZoywcd fmbbnwOSWzDq7hiUYuQGkIudJw5k/A1CMsyLkoUEGN3sLfsw6KASgS4XrrmPO4UVr3mH5bP1 yC7i1OVNpzvOxtahmzm481ID8sk72GC2RktTOHb0cX+qdoiMMfYgo3wRRDYCBt6YoGYUxF1p msjocXyqToKhhnFbXLaZlVfnQ9i2i8jsj9SKig+ewC2p3lkPj6ncye9q95bzhmUeJO6sFhJg Hiz6syOMg8yCcq60j07airybAuHIDNFWk0gaWAmtHZxLObZx2PVn2nv9kLYGohFekw0AOsIW ta++5m48dnCoAc7BTQRX1ky+ARAApzQNvXvE2q1LAS+Z+ni2R13Bb1cDS1ZYq1jgpR13+OKN ipzd8MPngRJilXxBaPTErhgzR0vGcNTYhjGMSyFIHVOoBq1VbP1a0Fi/NqWzJOowo/fDfgVy K4vuitc/gCJs+2se4hdZA4EQJxVlNM51lgYDNpjPGIA43MX15OLAip73+ho6NPBMuc5qse3X pAClNhBKfENRCWN428pi3WVkT+ABRTE0taxjJNP7bb+9TQYNRqGwnGzX5/XISv44asWIQCaq vOkXSUJLd//cdVNTqtL1wreCVVR5pMXj7VIrlk07fmmJVALCmGbFr53BMb8O+8dgK2A5mitM n44d+8KdJWOwziRxcaMk/LclmZS3Iv1TERtiWt98Y9AjeAtcgYPkA3ld0BcUKONogP8pHVz1 Ed3s5rDQ91yr1S0wuAzW91fxGUO4wY+uPmxCtFVuBgd9VT9NAKTUL0qHM7CDgCnZPe0TW6Zj 8OqtdCCyAfvU9cW5xWM7Icxhde6AtPxhDSBwE8fL2ZmrDmaA4jmUKXp3i4JxRPSX84S08b+s DWXHPxy10UFU5A7EK/BEbZAKBwn9ROfm+WK+6X5xOGLoRE++OqNuUudxC1GDyLOPaqCbBCS9 +P6HsTHzxsjyJa27n4jcrcuY3P9TEcFJYSZSeSDh8mVGvugi0exnSJrrBZDyVCcAEQEAAcLB ZQQYAQIADwIbDAUCWZR1ZwUJA59cIQAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH5b+D/9XG44Ci6STdcA5RO/ur05J EE3Ux1DCHZ5V7vNAtX/8Wg4l4GZfweauXwuJ1w7Sp7fklwcNC6wsceI+EmNjGMqfIaukGetG +jBGqsQ7moOZodfXUoCK98gblKgt/BPYMVidzlGC8Q/+lZg1+o29sPnwImW+MXt/Z5az/Z17 Qc265g+p5cqJHzq6bpQdnF7Fu6btKU/kv6wJghENvgMXBuyThqsyFReJWFh2wfaKyuix3Zyj ccq7/blkhzIKmtFWgDcgaSc2UAuJU+x9nuYjihW6WobpKP/nlUDu3BIsbIq09UEke+uE/QK+ FJ8PTJkAsXOf1Bc2C0XbW4Y2hf103+YY6L8weUCBsWC5VH5VtVmeuh26ENURclwfeXhWQ9Og 77yzpTXWr5g1Z0oLpYpWPv745J4bE7pv+dzxOrFdM1xNkzY2pvXph/A8OjxZNQklDkHQ7PIB Lki5L2F4XkEOddUUQchJwzMqTPsggPDmGjgLZrqgO+s4ECZK5+nLD3HEpAbPa3JLDaScy+90 Nu1lAqPUHSnP3vYZVw85ZYm6UCxHE4VLMnnJsN09ZhsOSVR+GyP5Nyw9rT1V3lcsuH7M5Naa 2Xobn9m7l9bRCD/Ji8kG15eV1WTxx1HXVQGjdUYDI7UwegBNbwMLh17XDy+3sn/6SgcqtECA Q6pZKA2mTQxEKMLBZQQYAQIADwIbDAUCWZR3hQUJA59eRwAKCRD5M+tD3xNhH4a/D/4jLAZu UhvU1swWcNEVVCELZ0D3LOV14XcY2MXa3QOpeZ9Bgq7YYJ4S5YXK+SBQS0FkRZdjGNvlGZoG ZdpU+NsQmQFhqHGwX0IT9MeTFM8uvKgxNKGwMVcV9g0IOqwBhGHne+BFboRA9362fgGW5AYQ zT0mzzRKEoOh4r3AQvbM6kLISxo0k1ujdYiI5nj/5WoKDqxTwwfuN1uDUHsWo3tzenRmpMyU NyW3Dc+1ajvXLyo09sRRq7BnM99Rix1EGL8Qhwy+j0YAv+FuspWxUX9FxXYho5PvGLHLsHfK FYQ7x/RRbpMjkJWVfIe/xVnfvn4kz+MTA5yhvsuNi678fLwY9hBP0y4lO8Ob2IhEPdfnTuIs tFVxXuelJ9xAe5TyqP0f+fQjf1ixsBZkqOohsBXDfje0iaUpYa/OQ/BBeej0dUdg2JEu4jAC x41HpVCnP9ipLpD0fYz1d/dX0F/VY2ovW6Eba/y/ngOSAR6C+u881m7oH2l0G47MTwkaQCBA bLGXPj4TCdX3lftqt4bcBPBJ+rFAnJmRHtUuyyaewBnZ81ZU2YAptqFM1kTh+aSvMvGhfVsQ qZL2rk2OPN1hg+KXhErlbTZ6oPtLCFhSHQmuxQ4oc4U147wBTUuOdwNjtnNatUhRCp8POc+3 XphVR5G70mnca1E2vzC77z+XSlTyRA== Message-ID: <0b7a04a0-c12b-829f-2cac-7a00e6308fab@intel.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:10:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Rx/Tx offloads checks behaviour in 18.05 X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 14:10:34 -0000 On 5/14/2018 11:19 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote: > Monday, May 14, 2018 1:00 PM, Ferruh Yigit: >>> >>> It depends on which PMD is used. Yes, it was no checks in ethdev before. >>> If PMD does not support multi-segment Tx, some checksum or VLAN >>> insertion offload, but application requests it and rely on it, it will >>> result in invalid packets sent to network. >>> >>> I realize that some applications may simply use empty txq_flags, but >>> do not use any offloads in fact. If so, such PMDs will fail to setup >>> TxQ if checks are made fatal, return error and underlying PMD does not >>>  support these offloads. >>> >>> At least it is safer behaviour than transmitting garbage. >>> Yes, not easy decision. >>> >>> I will publish my patches which passed our tests. >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree with Andrew here. Even though there is a concern about the >>> existing application we cannot use only logging. >>> >>> It is better to enforce the right behavior rather than having wrong >>> configuration silently accepted by the PMD. >> >> What do you think send an error for the application that switch to new >> offloading API and only print error log for the old ones. I believe we can >> detect this via ETH_TXQ_FLAGS_IGNORE and ignore_offload_bitfield. >> >> And we will already force old applications to switch to new API next release, >> next release we can introduce return error without condition. >> Does it make sense? > > The issue is currently none of the PMDs verify the offloads v.s. the caps as ethdev layer does it. > We cannot have offload to be set if it is not supported, even under the old API. allowing such breach on ethdev means we need to enforce it back again on each PMD. Hi Shahaf, Andrew, Thank you for sharing your concern I agree this is a valid one and thanks for the solution provided. Ethdev configure() and queue_setup() are two common functions used for almost all (if not all) DPDK networking applications, independent from they are interested in offloading or not. I am not comfortable on possibility to break them when we already scheduled a break next release withing the process. With Wei's latest updates within comment it mentions return error will be added in next release, this is good from documenting intention point of view. With taking the pressure to close the v18.05 I am for getting offloading patch as it is and reject Andrew's update. And do new offloading API related work, including adding these returns, early in next release (18.08) Thanks, ferruh