From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Cc: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>,
matan@nvidia.com, viacheslavo@nvidia.com, orika@nvidia.com,
Aman Singh <aman.deep.singh@intel.com>,
Yuying Zhang <yuying.zhang@intel.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, rasland@nvidia.com, jerinj@marvell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] ethdev: add special flags when creating async transfer table
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:18:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13070250.ZYm5mLc6kN@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f7972ac-ad64-bde4-554d-d3ee1afbc324@oktetlabs.ru>
18/01/2023 08:28, Andrew Rybchenko:
> On 11/14/22 14:59, Rongwei Liu wrote:
> > In case flow rules match only one kind of traffic in a flow table,
> > then optimization can be done via allocation of this table.
> > Such optimization is possible only if the application gives a hint
> > about its usage of the table during initial configuration.
> >
> > The transfer domain rules may process traffic from wire or vport,
> > which may correspond to two kinds of underlayer resources.
> > That's why the first two hints introduced in this patch are about
> > wire and vport traffic specialization.
> > Wire means traffic arrives from the uplink port while vport means
> > traffic initiated from VF/SF.
> >
> > There are two possible approaches for providing the hints.
> > Using IPv4 as an example:
> > 1. Use pattern item in both template table and flow rules.
> >
> > pattern_template: pattern ANY_VPORT / eth / ipv4 is 1.1.1.1 / end
> > async flow create: pattern ANY_VPORT / eth / ipv4 is 1.1.1.2 / end
> >
> > "ANY_VPORT" needs to be present in each flow rule even if it's
> > just a hint. No value to match because matching is already done by
> > IPv4 item.
> >
> > 2. Add special flags into table_attr.
> >
> > template_table 0 create table_id 0 group 1 transfer vport_orig
> >
> > Approach 1 needs to specify the pattern in each flow rule which wastes
> > memory and is not user friendly.
> > This patch takes the 2nd approach and introduces one new member
> > "specialize" into rte_flow_table_attr to indicate possible flow table
> > optimization.
>
> The above description is misleading. It alternates options (1)
> and (2), but in fact (2) requires (1) as well.
Yes the above description may be misleading
and it seems you are misleaded :)
I will explain below why the option (2) doesn't require (1).
I think we should apply the same example to both cases to make it clear:
1. Use pattern item in both template table and flow rules:
template table 3 = transfer pattern ANY_VPORT / eth / ipv4 src is 255.255.255.255 / end
flow rule = template_table 3 pattern ANY_VPORT / eth / ipv4 src is 1.1.1.1 / end
The pattern template 3 will be used only to match flows coming from vports.
ANY_VPORT needs to be present in each flow rule.
ANY_VPORT matching is redundant with IP src 1.1.1.1 because
the user knows 1.1.1.1 is the IP of a vport.
2. Add specialization flag into template table attribute:
template table 3 = transfer VPORT_ORIG pattern eth / ipv4 src is 255.255.255.255 / end
flow rule = template_table 3 pattern eth / ipv4 src is 1.1.1.1 / end
The pattern template 3 can be used only to match flows coming from vports.
> (2) is simply done on different level - much earlier, before
> flow rules creation. Since resources allocation is assumed to
> be done on table creation, we need to know the purpose of the
> table in advance to optimize resources allocation.
Actually in both cases we get the hint at template table creation.
But in solution 2 we are not creating a redundant pattern matching,
and we don't need to check it in flow rules, so it is more efficient.
> Since (2) is *not a matching criteria*, but just a hint, (1)
> flow rules must have matching criteria anyway.
No we don't need the matching criteria ANY_VPORT with solution (2)
because we are already matching on an IP src which is a vport.
> > +Table Attribute: Specialize
> > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > +
> > +Application can help optimizing underlayer resources and insertion rate
> > +by specializing template table.
> > +Specialization is done by providing hints
> > +in the template table attribute ``specialize``.
> > +
> > +This attribute is not mandatory for each PMD to implement.
> > +If a hint is not supported, it will be silently ignored,
> > +and no special optimization is done.
> > +
> > +If a table is specialized, the application should make sure the rules
> > +comply with the table attribute.
>
> If a table is specialized, the application must make sure that
> all flow rules added to the table have pattern which implies
> corresponding matching criteria. For example if a table is
> specialized to be wire-origin only, pattern should have
> represented port item with ethdev which corresponds to a
> physical port (or any other item which matches packets
> coming from wire only).
No need of a matching criteria strictly mapping the hint.
Here the hint is SPECIALIZE_TRANSFER_VPORT_ORIG
and the rules can match on an IP src which is assigned to a vport.
So there is no need to strictly match the vport itself in the rule.
Hope it make thinks clear.
We can improve the commit log as I wrote above.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-18 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-07 2:40 [PATCH v1] ethdev: add direction info when creating the " Rongwei Liu
2022-09-11 8:22 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-12 16:57 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-13 13:46 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-09-13 14:33 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-14 5:16 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-09-14 7:32 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-14 10:17 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-09-14 15:18 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-14 21:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-15 0:58 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-09-15 7:47 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-15 8:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-15 9:42 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-15 8:48 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-09-15 10:59 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-15 11:16 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-20 9:41 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-20 12:45 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-20 13:59 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-20 15:28 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-21 7:34 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-21 8:39 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-09-21 9:04 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-21 9:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-09-21 10:04 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-09-21 12:41 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-21 12:51 ` Morten Brørup
2022-09-22 7:39 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-09-22 10:06 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-22 10:31 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-09-22 13:00 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-23 7:25 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-09-23 16:11 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-22 12:43 ` Ivan Malov
2022-09-22 14:46 ` Ori Kam
2022-09-28 9:24 ` [PATCH v3] ethdev: add hint when creating async " Rongwei Liu
2022-10-04 8:31 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-04 10:42 ` [PATCH v4] ethdev: add special flags " Rongwei Liu
2022-11-04 10:44 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-11-08 11:39 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-08 11:47 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-08 13:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-08 14:38 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-08 15:25 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-09 8:53 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-09 9:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-09 9:36 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-09 10:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-06 10:02 ` [PATCH v3] ethdev: add hint " Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-07 1:58 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-11-08 9:19 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-08 9:35 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-08 11:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-11-08 11:48 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-14 8:47 ` [PATCH v6] ethdev: add special flags " Rongwei Liu
2022-11-14 11:59 ` [PATCH v7] " Rongwei Liu
2023-01-17 15:13 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-17 17:01 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-18 2:50 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 7:30 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-01-18 7:28 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-01-18 16:18 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2023-02-01 10:17 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 10:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 11:10 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 11:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 11:38 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 13:48 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 9:21 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-02 11:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 12:24 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 11:22 ` Ori Kam
2023-02-01 11:29 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 11:12 ` Ori Kam
2023-02-01 11:20 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-30 0:00 ` Ivan Malov
2023-01-30 2:34 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-30 7:40 ` Ivan Malov
2023-01-30 14:49 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-30 23:00 ` Ivan Malov
2023-01-31 3:06 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 5:30 ` Ivan Malov
2023-01-31 6:14 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-01 10:12 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 11:50 ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-01 13:37 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 14:04 ` Ivan Malov
2023-02-01 14:23 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 14:29 ` Ori Kam
2023-02-02 11:19 ` [PATCH v8] ethdev: add optimization hints in flow template table Rongwei Liu
2023-02-02 11:33 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-08 23:19 ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-11-09 8:11 ` [PATCH v5] ethdev: add special flags when creating async transfer table Rongwei Liu
2022-11-09 8:13 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-11-09 8:31 ` Thomas Monjalon
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