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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Yuanhan Liu <yliu@fridaylinux.org>
Cc: "Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	"Ferruh Yigit" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: document the new devargs syntax
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:19:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1680850.DZ6KxSLkSi@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180124064339.GT29540@yliu-mob>

24/01/2018 07:43, Yuanhan Liu:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 03:29:34PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 23/01/2018 13:46, Yuanhan Liu:
> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:46:23AM +0100, Gaëtan Rivet wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 09:46:29AM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > 18/01/2018 08:35, Yuanhan Liu:
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:34:08PM +0000, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> > > > > > > So does it make sense to separate them logically? Perhaps as "device identifier"
> > > > > > > and "device args".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Then I think it returns back to the old issue: how could we identify a
> > > > > > port when the bus id (say BDF for PCI bus) is not enough for identifying
> > > > > > a port? Such case could happen when a single NIC has 2 ports sharing
> > > > > > the same BDF. It could also happen with the VF representors that will
> > > > > > be introduced shortly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, the device matching syntax must include bus category, class category
> > > > > and driver category. So any device can be identified in future.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I think Ferruh is talking about separating device matching
> > > > > (which is described in this proposal) and device settings
> > > > > (which are usually mixed in -w and --vdev options).
> > > > > I agree there are different things and may be separate.
> > > > > They could share the same syntax (bus/class/driver) but be separate
> > > > > with a semicolon:
> > > > > 	matching;settings
> > > >
> > > > Can you give an example?
> > > 
> > > Let's take port addition in OVS-DPDK as an example. It happens in 2
> > > steps:
> > > - port lookup (if port is already probed)
> > > - dev attachment (if lookup fails)
> > > 
> > > And also let's assume we need probe a ConnectX-3 port. Note that for
> > > ConnectX-3, there are 2 ports sharing the same PCI addr. Thus, PCI
> > > BDF is not enough. And let's assume we use another extra property
> > > "port".
> > > 
> > > If the proposal described in this patch is being used, the devarg
> > > would look like following:
> > > 
> > >     bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0/driver=mlx4,mlx4_arg_A=val,...
> > > 
> > > Then "bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0" will be used for lookup,
> > > It means we are looking for a port with PCI BDF == 04:00.0 AND
> > > port == 0 (the first port of the 2 ports).
> > > 
> > > Note that in my proposal the driver category is not intended for lookup.
> > > If any properties needed be looked in the driver category, they would
> > > probably need be elevated to the class category.
> > 
> > It is not my thought.
> > I think we should be able to use bus, class and driver properties for lookup.
> > We can imagine doing a lookup on a driver specific id, which is not
> > candidate to elevation to the class category.
> > 
> > > If port not found, then the whole string will be used for dev attachment.
> > > It means we are attaching a port with PCI BDF == 04.00.0 AND
> > > port == 0 (the 2nd port will not be attached).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And here is how the devargs would look like if "matching;settings" is
> > > being used:
> > > 
> > >     bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0;bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0/driver=mlx4,mlx4_arg_A=val,...
> > > 
> > > The part before ";" will be used for lookup and the later part will be
> > > used for attachment. It should work. It just looks redundant.
> > 
> > It does not have to be redundant.
> > It can be:
> > 	bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0;driver=mlx4,mlx4_arg1=settings1,...
> 
> I knew you would make such reply :)
> Then there is a contradiction. According your suggestion, the "port=0" belongs
> to the matching section, but it also has to be used in the settings section.

If port=0 is matched, it is already set, right?
Why it needs to be in settings?

> > Another example, setting the MAC address:
> > 	bus=pci,id=04:00.0/class=eth,port=0;class=eth,mac=00:11:22:33:44:55
> 
> What's the scenario it will be used? And who is going to parse it?

It can be used on command line for whitelisting a device and let the user
change its MAC address.
The matching is parsed by the PCI driver + ethdev, here.
As mac is a property of ethdev (class=eth), this part must be parsed by ethdev.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-24  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-16 14:50 Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-16 16:33 ` Mcnamara, John
2018-01-16 23:19 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-16 23:22   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-16 23:46     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-17  0:03       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-17  9:37         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-17  9:43           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-17 10:11 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-17 10:54   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-17 12:34 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-18  7:35   ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-18  8:46     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18  9:46       ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 12:46         ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-23 14:29           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 16:08             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 17:22               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 17:37                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 18:12                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 15:24               ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-24 16:51                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24  6:43             ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-24  8:19               ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2018-01-24  9:28                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-24 10:21                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 10:36                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-24 10:37                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 15:04                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-24 16:57                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 14:41                             ` Yuanhan Liu
2018-01-25 14:58                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-06-08 22:51 ` Stephen Hemminger

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