* [dpdk-dev] ABI/API stability in DPDK
@ 2017-10-06 16:21 Mcnamara, John
2017-10-06 16:27 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-06 17:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
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From: Mcnamara, John @ 2017-10-06 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dev; +Cc: Kevin Traynor, Stokes, Ian, Luca Boccassi
Hi,
At the recent DPDK 2017 Userspace in Dublin we had a discussion about API/ABI stability with representation from Intel, OVS-DPDK, Debian, Red Hat and plenty of input from the floor.
The main consensus after looking at different proposals was to maintain the current process (http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html) but to try enforce it more rigidly.
The main points to come out of this discussion were:
1. That 3 Acks are still needed for deprecation and they should come from different companies.
2. ABI checks to be run as part of the CI/testing so that patches that break ABI are flagged early. Note, ABI checks can be run manually as follows: http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html#running-the-abi-validator
3. New API's will be marked as experimental by default for 1 release minimum. This is to address the most common case for breakage which is in new APIs.
If I missed, or misrepresented, anything please update in a reply.
John
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* Re: [dpdk-dev] ABI/API stability in DPDK
2017-10-06 16:21 [dpdk-dev] ABI/API stability in DPDK Mcnamara, John
@ 2017-10-06 16:27 ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-06 17:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
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From: Ferruh Yigit @ 2017-10-06 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mcnamara, John, dev; +Cc: Kevin Traynor, Stokes, Ian, Luca Boccassi
On 10/6/2017 5:21 PM, Mcnamara, John wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At the recent DPDK 2017 Userspace in Dublin we had a discussion about API/ABI stability with representation from Intel, OVS-DPDK, Debian, Red Hat and plenty of input from the floor.
>
>
> The main consensus after looking at different proposals was to maintain the current process (http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html) but to try enforce it more rigidly.
>
>
>
>
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> The main points to come out of this discussion were:
>
>
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> 1. That 3 Acks are still needed for deprecation and they should come from different companies.
>
>
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> 2. ABI checks to be run as part of the CI/testing so that patches that break ABI are flagged early. Note, ABI checks can be run manually as follows: http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html#running-the-abi-validator
>
>
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> 3. New API's will be marked as experimental by default for 1 release minimum. This is to address the most common case for breakage which is in new APIs.
Do we have data for this? Is it really new APIs get broken?
>
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> If I missed, or misrepresented, anything please update in a reply.
>
> John
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>
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* Re: [dpdk-dev] ABI/API stability in DPDK
2017-10-06 16:21 [dpdk-dev] ABI/API stability in DPDK Mcnamara, John
2017-10-06 16:27 ` Ferruh Yigit
@ 2017-10-06 17:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2017-10-06 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mcnamara, John
Cc: dev, Kevin Traynor, Stokes, Ian, Luca Boccassi, techboard,
aconole, ktraynor
06/10/2017 18:21, Mcnamara, John:
> Hi,
>
> At the recent DPDK 2017 Userspace in Dublin we had a discussion about API/ABI stability with representation from Intel, OVS-DPDK, Debian, Red Hat and plenty of input from the floor.
>
> The main consensus after looking at different proposals was to maintain the current process (http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html) but to try enforce it more rigidly.
>
> The main points to come out of this discussion were:
>
> 1. That 3 Acks are still needed for deprecation and they should come from different companies.
>
> 2. ABI checks to be run as part of the CI/testing so that patches that break ABI are flagged early. Note, ABI checks can be run manually as follows: http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/versioning.html#running-the-abi-validator
>
> 3. New API's will be marked as experimental by default for 1 release minimum. This is to address the most common case for breakage which is in new APIs.
Thanks for the summary, John.
The points 1 and 3 must be approved by the technical board.
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