From: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
To: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
"Varghese, Vipin" <vipin.varghese@amd.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] introduce LLC aware functions
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 10:44:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16b78eca-1861-45ec-8d7b-af99b57af824@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462f4550-698e-4f49-9280-3a3708448337@amd.com>
>> Yes, this does help clarify things a lot as to why current NUMA support
>> would be insufficient to express what you are describing.
>>
>> However, in that case I would echo sentiment others have expressed
>> already as this kind of deep sysfs parsing doesn't seem like it would be
>> in scope for EAL, it sounds more like something a sysadmin/orchestration
>> (or the application itself) would do.
>>
>> I mean, in principle I'm not opposed to having such an API, it just
>> seems like the abstraction would perhaps need to be a bit more robust
>> than directly referencing cache structure? Maybe something that
>> degenerates into NUMA nodes would be better, so that applications
>> wouldn't have to *specifically* worry about cache locality but instead
>> have a more generic API they can use to group cores together?
>>
>
> Unfortunately can't cover all usecases by sysadmin/orchestration (as
> graph usecase one above), and definitely too much HW detail for the
> application, that is why we required some programmatic way (APIs) for
> applications.
>
> And we are on the same page that, the more we can get away from
> architecture details in the abstraction (APIs) better it is, overall
> intention is to provide ways to application to find lcores works
> efficiently with each other.
>
> For this what do you think about slightly different API *, like:
> ```
> rte_get_next_lcore_ex(uint i, u32 flag)
> ```
>
> Based on the flag, we can grab the next eligible lcore, for this patch
> the flag can be `RTE_LCORE_LLC`, but options are wide and different
> architectures can have different grouping to benefit most from HW in a
> vendor agnostic way.
> I like the idea, what do you think about this abstraction?
>
> * Kudos to Vipin 😉
>
Hi Ferruh,
In principle, having flags for this sort of thing sounds like a better
way to go. I do like this idea as well! It of course remains to be seen
how it can work in practice but to me it certainly looks like a path
worth exploring.
--
Thanks,
Anatoly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-06 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-27 15:10 Vipin Varghese
2024-08-27 15:10 ` [RFC 1/2] eal: add llc " Vipin Varghese
2024-08-27 17:36 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-02 0:27 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-08-27 20:56 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-08-29 3:21 ` 答复: " Feifei Wang
2024-09-02 1:20 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-03 17:54 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-09-04 8:18 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-06 11:59 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 16:58 ` Wathsala Wathawana Vithanage
2024-08-27 15:10 ` [RFC 2/2] eal/lcore: add llc aware for each macro Vipin Varghese
2024-08-27 21:23 ` [RFC 0/2] introduce LLC aware functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-02 0:39 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-04 9:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-04 14:37 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-11 3:13 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-11 3:53 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-12 1:11 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-09 14:22 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-09 14:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 3:26 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-11 15:55 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-11 17:04 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2024-09-12 1:33 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 6:38 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 7:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 11:23 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 12:12 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 15:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-12 11:17 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 11:59 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 13:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-12 16:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-12 2:28 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-11 16:01 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-11 22:25 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-09-12 2:38 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 2:19 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-12 9:17 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-12 11:50 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-13 14:15 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2024-09-12 13:18 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-28 8:38 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2024-09-02 1:08 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-02 14:17 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2024-09-02 15:33 ` Varghese, Vipin
2024-09-03 8:50 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2024-09-05 13:05 ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-05 14:45 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2024-09-05 15:34 ` Ferruh Yigit
2024-09-06 8:44 ` Burakov, Anatoly [this message]
2024-09-09 14:14 ` Varghese, Vipin
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