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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Spike Du <spiked@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>, Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>,
	"ferruh.yigit@amd.com" <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 15:58:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1740079.OQMrUlzKSU@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0ba16f6-594c-b1eb-893c-cbd9ca1aed5b@oktetlabs.ru>

25/05/2022 14:59, Andrew Rybchenko:
> On 5/24/22 11:18, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 24/05/2022 04:50, Spike Du:
> >> From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> >>> 23/05/2022 05:01, Spike Du:
> >>>> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> >>>>> Spike Du <spiked@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> --- a/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
> >>>>>> +++ b/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
> >>>>>> @@ -1249,7 +1249,16 @@ struct rte_eth_rxconf {
> >>>>>>         */
> >>>>>>        union rte_eth_rxseg *rx_seg;
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -     uint64_t reserved_64s[2]; /**< Reserved for future fields */
> >>>>>> +     /**
> >>>>>> +      * Per-queue Rx limit watermark defined as percentage of Rx queue
> >>>>>> +      * size. If Rx queue receives traffic higher than this percentage,
> >>>>>> +      * the event RTE_ETH_EVENT_RX_LWM is triggered.
> >>>>>> +      */
> >>>>>> +     uint8_t lwm;
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +     uint8_t reserved_bits[3];
> >>>>>> +     uint32_t reserved_32s;
> >>>>>> +     uint64_t reserved_64s;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok but, this is an ABI risk about this because reserved stuff was
> >>>>> never required before.
> >>>
> >>> An ABI compatibility issue would be for an application compiled with an old
> >>> DPDK, and loading a new DPDK at runtime.
> >>> Let's think what would happen in such a case.
> >>>
> >>>>> Whenever is a reserved field is introduced the code (in this case
> >>>>> rte_ethdev_configure).
> >>>
> >>> rte_eth_rx_queue_setup() is called with rx_conf->lwm not initialized.
> >>> Then the library and drivers may interpret a wrong value.
> >>>
> >>>>> Best practice would have been to have the code require all reserved
> >>>>> fields be
> >>>>> 0 in earlier releases. In this case an application is like to define
> >>>>> a watermark of zero; how will your code handle it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Having watermark of 0 is desired, which is the default. LWM of 0 means
> >>>> the Rx Queue's watermark is not monitored, hence no LWM event is
> >>> generated.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is to have a value not initialized.
> >>> I think the best approach is to not expose the LWM value through this
> >>> configuration structure.
> >>> If the need is to get the current value, we should better add a field in the
> >>> struct rte_eth_rxq_info.
> >>
> >> At least from all the dpdk app/example code, rxconf is initialized to 0 then setup
> >> The Rx queue, if user follows these examples we should not have ABI issue.
> >> Since many people are concerned about rxconf change, it's ok to remove the LWM
> >> Field there.
> >> Yes, I think we can add lwm into rte_eth_rxq_info. If we can set Rx queue's attribute,
> >> We should have a way to get it.
> > 
> > Unfortunately we cannot rely on examples for ABI compatibility.
> > My suggestion of moving the field in rte_eth_rxq_info
> > is not obvious because it could change the size of the struct.
> > But thanks to __rte_cache_min_aligned, it is OK.
> > Running pahole on this struct shows we have 50 bytes free:
> >          /* size: 128, cachelines: 2, members: 6 */
> >          /* padding: 50 */
> > 
> > The other option would be to get the LWM value with a "get" function.
> > 
> > What others prefer?
> 
> If I'm not mistaken the changeset breaks ABI in any case since
> it adds a new event and changes MAX.

I think we can consider it as not a breakage (a rule should be added).
Last time we had to update this enum, this was the conclusion:
from https://git.dpdk.org/dpdk/commit/?id=44bf3c796be3f
"
The new event type addition in the enum is flagged as an ABI breakage,
so an ignore rule is added for these reasons:
- It is not changing value of existing types (except MAX)
- The new value is not used by existing API if the event is not
  registered
In general, it is safe adding new ethdev event types at the end of the
enum, because of event callback registration mechanism.
"

> If so, I'd wait for the
> next ABI breaking release and do not touch reserved fields.

In any case, rte_eth_rxconf is not a good fit
because we have a separate function for configuration.
It should be either in rte_eth_rxq_info or a specific "get" function.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-25 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-01  3:22 [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56   ` [RFC v1 0/7] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-19  9:37       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-06  3:56     ` [RFC v1 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58     ` [RFC v2 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:23         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23  3:01           ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 21:45             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24  2:50               ` Spike Du
2022-05-24  8:18                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 12:59                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:58                     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2022-05-25 14:23                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-23 22:54             ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-24  3:46               ` Spike Du
2022-05-22 15:24         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-05-23  2:18           ` Spike Du
2022-05-23  6:07         ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-23 10:58           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-23 14:10             ` Spike Du
2022-05-23 14:39               ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24  6:35                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-24  9:40                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:58       ` [RFC v2 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-22  5:59       ` [RFC v2 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20       ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based limit watermark Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:20         ` [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-05-24 15:59         ` [PATCH v3 0/7] introduce per-queue limit watermark and host shaper Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-24 19:00           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 19:22             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-05-25 14:11               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-05-25 13:14             ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 13:40               ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-25 13:59                 ` Spike Du
2022-05-25 14:16                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-25 14:30                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-03 12:48         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] introduce per-queue fill threshold " Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-04 12:46             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 13:16               ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 17:15                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 21:30                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-07  8:02                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-07  6:00                   ` Spike Du
2022-06-06 15:49             ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based fill threshold Spike Du
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-03 14:55             ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-03 12:48           ` [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59           ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 1/7] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-08 20:10               ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 2/7] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: introduce Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 4/7] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 5/7] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 6/7] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-07 12:59             ` [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-09  7:55               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-10  2:22                 ` Spike Du
2022-06-13  2:50               ` [PATCH v6] " Spike Du
2022-06-13  2:50                 ` Spike Du
2022-06-14  9:43                   ` Singh, Aman Deep
2022-06-14  9:54                     ` Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01                   ` [PATCH v7] " Spike Du
2022-06-14 12:01                     ` Spike Du
2022-06-15  7:51                       ` Matan Azrad
2022-06-15 11:08                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-15 12:58                       ` [PATCH v8 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                           ` [PATCH v9 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                               ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] net/mlx5: add LWM support for Rxq Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-23 16:05                                   ` Ray Kinsella
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-16  8:41                                 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-19  8:14                                 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Raslan Darawsheh
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 14:43                             ` [PATCH v9 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 4/6] net/mlx5: support Rx queue based available descriptor threshold Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-06-15 12:58                         ` [PATCH v8 6/6] app/testpmd: add Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-06-08  9:43             ` [PATCH v5 0/7] introduce per-queue available descriptor threshold and host shaper Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 16:35             ` [PATCH v6] ethdev: introduce available Rx descriptors threshold Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-08 17:22               ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-08 17:46                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-09  0:17                   ` fengchengwen
2022-06-09  7:05                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-06-10  0:01                       ` fengchengwen
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 2/6] common/mlx5: share interrupt management Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 3/6] net/mlx5: add LWM event handling support Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 4/6] net/mlx5: add private API to configure Rxq LWM Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 5/6] net/mlx5: add private API to config host port shaper Spike Du
2022-04-01  3:22 ` [RFC 6/6] app/testpmd: add LWM and Host Shaper command Spike Du
2022-04-05  8:58 ` [RFC 0/6] net/mlx5: introduce limit watermark and host shaper Jerin Jacob
2022-04-26  2:42   ` Spike Du
2022-05-01 12:50     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:58       ` Spike Du
2022-04-29  5:48   ` Spike Du

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