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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Kinsella, Ray" <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Vladimir Medvedkin <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, david.marchand@redhat.com, jerinj@marvell.com,
	konstantin.ananyev@intel.com, bruce.richardson@intel.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/8] fib: implement AVX512 vector lookup
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:47:59 +0200
Message-ID: <1758703.2oNzlfH3Ak@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200714073828.7cdd7355@hermes.lan>

14/07/2020 16:38, Stephen Hemminger:
> "Kinsella, Ray" <mdr@ashroe.eu> wrote:
> > On 13/07/2020 23:19, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > Did anyone else see the recent AVX512 discussion from Linus:
> > >   "I hope AVX512 dies a painful death, and that Intel starts fixing real problems 
> > >    instead of trying to create magic instructions to then create benchmarks that they can look good on.   
> > 
> > Yup - I saw this one.
> > Sweeping statements like these are good to provoke debate, the truth is generally more nuanced.
> > If you continue to read the post, Linus appears to be mostly questioning microprocessor design decisions.
> > 
> > That is an interesting discussion, however the reality is that the technology does exists and may be beneficial for Packet Processing. 
> > 
> > I would suggest, we continue to apply the same logic governing adoption of any technology by DPDK. 
> > When the technology is present and a clear benefit is shown, we use it with caution.
> > 
> > In the case of Vladimir's patch,
> > the user has to explicitly switch on the AVX512 lookup with RTE_FIB_DIR24_8_VECTOR_AVX512.
> 
> Using what is available makes sense in DPDK. 

Why does it require explicit  enabling in application?
AVX512 is not reliable enough to be automatically used when available?




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Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-09 12:43 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] eal: introduce zmm type for AVX 512-bit Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-09 16:39   ` Jerin Jacob
2020-03-10 14:44     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-03-20  8:23       ` Jerin Jacob
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-01  5:47   ` Ray Kinsella
2020-04-01 18:48     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-01  5:54   ` Ray Kinsella
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-03-09 12:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-04-16  9:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] fib: implement AVX512 vector lookup Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-19 12:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/8] " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-19 12:23     ` David Marchand
2020-05-19 12:57       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-05-19 13:00         ` David Marchand
2020-06-19 10:34     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-06 14:31               ` David Marchand
2020-10-06 15:13                 ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:15                   ` David Marchand
2020-10-16 15:32                     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/7] " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 0/8] " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 " Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-28 20:51                             ` David Marchand
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 1/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 2/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 3/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 4/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 5/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 6/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 7/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-27 15:11                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v15 8/8] fib: remove unnecessary type of fib Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 1/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-26 13:58                           ` David Marchand
2020-10-26 17:51                             ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 2/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 3/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 4/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 5/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 6/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:08                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 7/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-25 18:08                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v14 8/8] fib: remove unnecessary type of fib Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 1/7] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:55                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-22 11:52                         ` David Marchand
2020-10-22 15:11                           ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-23 10:29                             ` David Marchand
2020-10-23 16:09                               ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 2/7] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:56                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 3/7] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:56                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 4/7] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:56                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 5/7] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:56                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 6/7] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:57                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 15:05                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 7/7] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-22  7:57                         ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/7] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/7] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 3/7] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 4/7] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 5/7] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 6/7] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19 10:17                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 7/7] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-19  6:35                     ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-10-19 10:12                       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-16 15:42                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-14 12:17                   ` David Marchand
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:13                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:14                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:14                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 13:14                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-13 10:27                 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-10-07 16:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-09-30 10:35             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-16 11:51             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-16 14:32             ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-09-30 11:06               ` Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-16 11:53             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:56           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 22:19           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/8] fib: implement AVX512 vector lookup Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-14  7:31             ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-07-14 14:38               ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-15  9:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2020-07-15 10:35                   ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-15 11:59                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-15 12:29                       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-15 12:45                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-17 16:43                           ` Richardson, Bruce
2020-07-19 10:04                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:33           ` David Marchand
2020-07-13 11:44             ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-13 11:11         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/8] eal/x86: introduce AVX 512-bit type Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 21:49         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-13 10:23           ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-13 10:25             ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-13 10:39               ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-13 10:45                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-10 14:46       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/8] eal: introduce zmm type for AVX 512-bit Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-09 13:48       ` David Marchand
2020-07-09 14:52         ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-09 15:20           ` David Marchand
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 20:16     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-19 12:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/8] eal: introduce zmm type for AVX 512-bit Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-06-24 13:14     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-06 17:28     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-19 12:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/8] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-19 12:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/8] fib: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 11:23     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-19 12:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/8] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-06-24 13:18     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-08 19:57       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-06 19:21     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-08 20:19       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-07-07  9:44     ` Bruce Richardson
2020-05-19 12:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/8] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-19 12:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/8] fib6: move lookup definition into the header file Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 11:27     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-19 12:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/8] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-07-08 12:23     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-08 19:56       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-05-19 12:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/8] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: introduce zmm type for AVX 512-bit Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] fib: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] fib: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:40   ` Bruce Richardson
2020-05-14 12:43     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] fib6: make lookup function type configurable Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] fib6: introduce AVX512 lookup Vladimir Medvedkin
2020-05-14 12:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testfib: add support for different lookup functions Vladimir Medvedkin

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