From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ixgbe: Discard SRIOV transparent vlan packet headers.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:35:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151214133512.48593b49@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725836AD3A5C@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:57:10 +0000
"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 7:25 PM
> > To: Ananyev, Konstantin
> > Cc: Zhang, Helin; dev@dpdk.org; Tom Kiely
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] ixgbe: Discard SRIOV transparent vlan packet headers.
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 19:12:26 +0000
> > "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 4:59 PM
> > > > To: Zhang, Helin; Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Tom Kiely; Stephen Hemminger
> > > > Subject: [PATCH] ixgbe: Discard SRIOV transparent vlan packet headers.
> > > >
> > > > From: Tom Kiely <tkiely@brocade.com>
> > > >
> > > > SRIOV VFs support "transparent" vlans. Traffic from/to a VM
> > > > associated with a VF is tagged/untagged with the specified
> > > > vlan in a manner intended to be totally transparent to the VM.
> > > >
> > > > The vlan is specified by "ip link set <device> vf <n> vlan <v>".
> > > > The VM is not configured for any vlan on the VF and the VM
> > > > should never see these transparent vlan headers for that reason.
> > > >
> > > > However, in practice these vlan headers are being received by
> > > > the VM which discards the packets as that vlan is unknown to it.
> > > > The Linux kernel explicitly discards such vlan headers but DPDK
> > > > does not.
> > > > This patch mirrors the kernel behaviour for SRIOV VFs only
> > >
> > >
> > > I have few concerns about that approach:
> > >
> > > 1. I don't think vlan_tci info should *always* be stripped by vf RX routine.
> > > There could be configurations when that information might be needed by upper layer.
> > > Let say VF can be member of 2 or more VLANs and upper layer would like to have that information
> > > for further processing.
> > > Or special mirror VF, that does traffic snnoping, or something else.
> > > 2. Proposed implementation would introduce a slowdown for all VF RX routines.
> > > 3. From the description it seems like the aim is to clear VLAN information for the RX packet.
> > > Though the patch actually clears VLAN info only for the RX packet whose VLAN tag is not present inside SW copy of VFTA table.
> > > Which makes no much point to me:
> > > If VLAN is not present in HW VFTA table, then packet with that VLAN tag will be discarded by HW anyway.
> > > If it is present inside VFTA table (both SW & HW), then VLAN information would be preserved with and without the patch.
> > >
> > > If you need to clear VLAN information, why not to do it on the upper layer - inside your application itself?
> > > Either create some sort of wrapper around rx_burst(), or setup an RX call-back for your VF device.
> > >
> > > Konstantin
> >
> >
> > The aim is to get SRIOV to work when the transparent VLAN tag feature is used.
> > Please talk to the Linux driver team. Similar code exists there in ixgbevf_process_skb_fields.
>
>
> Ah ok, I realised what you are trying to achieve now:
> You setup HW VFTA[] from the PF, so from VF point of view SW copy of the VFTA[] remains unset.
> So HW will pass VLAN packet in, but then SW will clear VLAN tag.
> Ok, that clears #3 above, but I think #1,2 still remain.
On the host, what configured is a vlan tag per VF per guest
Tom had more info in the original mail.
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.networking.dpdk.devel/28932
> >
> > The other option is have a copy of all the receive logic which is only
> > used by VF code.
>
> Why that's the only option?
> Why can't you clear that VLAN information above the PMD layer?
> Keep/obtain a copy of VFTA[] somewhere on the upper layer,
> and do actual clear after rx_burst() returns?
> Konstantin
The problem is that the guest is supposed to not see the VLAN tags (it has no reason to),
but the hardware leaves a VLAN tag on there.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-14 21:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-11 16:59 Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-14 19:12 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-14 19:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-14 19:57 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-14 21:35 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2015-12-15 14:37 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-17 10:30 ` Tom Kiely
2016-02-10 15:53 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-02-11 17:50 ` Tom Kiely
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