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From: Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>
To: Arnon Warshavsky <arnon@qwilt.com>
Cc: "Trahe, Fiona" <fiona.trahe@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] DPDK namespace
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:26:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160406052656.GT3080@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKy9EB3wT0nXQ7P8nuUY2hJ=Kdyip7jCP9ypka=EVGO2CB_HKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 05:31:22PM +0300, Arnon Warshavsky wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Trahe, Fiona <fiona.trahe@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Monjalon
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 2:57 PM
> > > To: dev@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: [dpdk-dev] DPDK namespace
> > >
> > > DPDK is going to be more popular in Linux distributions.
> > > It means people will have some DPDK files in their /usr/include and some
> > DPDK
> > > libraries on their system.
> > >
> > > Let's imagine someone trying to compile an application which needs
> > > rte_ethdev.h. He has to figure out that this "rte header" is provided by
> > the DPDK.
> > > Hopefully it will be explained on StackOverflow that RTE stands for DPDK.
> > > Then someone else will try to run a binary without having installed the
> > DPDK
> > > libraries. The linker will require libethdev.so (no prefix here).
> > > StackOverflow will probably have another good answer (among wrong ones):
> > > "Hey Sherlock Holmes, have you tried to install the DPDK library?"
> > > Followed by an insight: "You know, the DPDK naming is weird..."
> > > And we could continue the story with developers having some naming clash
> > > because of some identifiers not prefixed at all.
> > >
> > > The goal of this email is to get some feedback on how important it is to
> > fix the
> > > DPDK namespace.
> > >
> > > If there is enough agreement that we should do something, I suggest to
> > > introduce the "dpdk_" prefix slowly and live with both "rte_" and "dpdk_"
> > > during some time.
> > > We could start using the new prefix for the new APIs (example: crypto)
> > or when
> > > there is a significant API break (example: mempool).
> > >
> > > Opinions welcome!
> > I don't have an opinion on how important it is to fix the namespace,
> > though it does seem like a good idea.
> > However if it's to be done, in my opinion it should be completed quickly
> > or will just cause more confusion.
> > So if rte_cryptoxxx becomes dpdk_cryptoxxx all other libraries should
> > follow in next release or two, with
> > the resulting ABI compatibility handling. Maybe with dual naming handled
> > for several releases, but a
> > clear end date when all are converted.
> > Else there will be many years with a mix of rte_ and dpdk_
> >
> >
> 
> Googling rte functions or error codes usually takes you to dpdk dev email
> archive so I don't think it is that much difficult to figure out where rte
> comes from.
> Other than that , except for my own refactoring pains when replacing a dpdk
> version, I do not see a major reason why not.
> If Going for dpdk_ prefix, I agree with the quick death approach.

+1: it's a bit weird to keep both, especially for a long while, that
every time we turn a rte_ prefix to dpdk_ prefix, we break applications.
Instead of breaking applications many times, I'd prefer to break once.
Therefore, applications could do a simple global rte_ -> dpdk_ substitute:
it doesn't sound that painful then.

And here are few more comments:

- we should add rte_/dpdk_ prefix to all public structures as well.

  I'm thinking we are doing well here. I'm just aware that vhost lib
  does a bad job, which is something I proposed to fix in next release.

- If we do the whole change once, I'd suggest to do it ASAP when this
  release is over.

  It should be a HUGE change that touches a lot of code, if we do it
  later, at a stage that a lot of patches for new features have been
  made or sent out, all of them need rebase. That'd be painful.

	--yliu

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-06  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-05 13:56 Thomas Monjalon
2016-04-05 14:13 ` Trahe, Fiona
2016-04-05 14:31   ` Trahe, Fiona
2016-04-05 14:31   ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-04-06  5:26     ` Yuanhan Liu [this message]
2016-04-06 12:07       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-04-06 12:34         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-04-06 14:36         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-04-06 20:21         ` Dave Neary
2016-04-07  8:22           ` Marc
2016-04-11 16:10         ` Don Provan
2016-04-11 16:28           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-04-06 12:41       ` Jay Rolette
2016-04-06 12:51         ` Mcnamara, John
2016-04-07  9:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-04-07  9:33   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-04-07 10:16     ` Marc Sune
2016-04-07 11:51       ` [dpdk-dev] On DPDK ABI policy Panu Matilainen
2016-04-07 21:52         ` Matthew Hall
2016-04-08  8:29           ` Marc Sune
2016-04-08  8:47         ` Marc Sune
2016-04-07 21:48       ` [dpdk-dev] DPDK namespace Matthew Hall
2016-04-07 22:01   ` Thomas Monjalon

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