From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mhcomputing.net (master.mhcomputing.net [74.208.228.170]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3A22BA8; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:48:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.mhcomputing.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB70B358; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 14:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 14:48:43 -0700 From: Matthew Hall To: Marc Sune Cc: Panu Matilainen , Thomas Monjalon , dev@dpdk.org, techboard@dpdk.org Message-ID: <20160407214843.GA28667@mhcomputing.net> References: <1610488.T03Kyi0Reo@xps13> <5911950.ZPQvAWoePl@xps13> <5706295A.3000406@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] DPDK namespace X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 21:48:44 -0000 On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:16:34PM +0200, Marc Sune wrote: > I keep not understanding the ABI policy, and particularly why ABI changes > have to be announced once cycle before _if_ there is already at least one > ABI change proposed. DPDK applications will have to recompile anyway. > > This aspect of the policy only slows down DPDK development and it pollutes > the repository with commits announcing ABI changes that are irrelevant > after 2 cycles, as (code) diffs show that already (not mentioning NEXT_ABI > complexity and extra LOCs). > > Maintaining LTS releases, and enforcing bug fixing in old LTS first, > upstreaming bugfixes is to me a much better approach to solve backwards > compatibility issues. > > But this is probably another discussion. Yes, separate discussion. But I agree 100,000%. As a community member in my spare time I get tripped up by NEXT_ABI pollution just trying to submit trivial patches all the time, then I don't really have any good idea how to fix it, and I have to annoy Thomas with dumb questions across the time zones. I would really prefer to dump all the drama about ABIs and make a maintenance only LTS release which only gets bug fixes people specifically need and not random fixes or features. Matthew.