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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_ring features in use (or not)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:53:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170131115349.7efadb09@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772583F10CD7E@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:29:18 +0000, "Ananyev, Konstantin"
<konstantin.ananyev@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > Bonus question:
> > > > * Do we know how widely used the enq_bulk/deq_bulk functions
> > > > are? They are useful for unit tests, so they do have uses, but
> > > > I think it would be good if we harmonized the return values
> > > > between bulk and burst functions. Right now:
> > > >    enq_bulk  - only enqueues all elements or none. Returns 0
> > > > for all, or negative error for none.
> > > >    enq_burst - enqueues as many elements as possible. Returns
> > > > the number enqueued.  
> > >
> > > I do use the apis in pktgen and the difference in return values
> > > has got me once. Making them common would be great,  but the
> > > problem is  
> > backward compat to old versions I would need to have an ifdef in
> > pktgen now. So it seems like we moved the problem to the
> > application.  
> > >  
> > 
> > Yes, an ifdef would be needed, but how many versions of DPDK back
> > do you support? Could the ifdef be removed again after say, 6
> > months? 
> > > I would like to see the old API kept and a new API with the new
> > > behavior. I know it adds another API but one of the API would be
> > > nothing  
> > more than wrapper function if not a macro.  
> > >
> > > Would that be more reasonable then changing the ABI?  
> > 
> > Technically, this would be an API rather than ABI change, since the
> > functions are inlined in the code. However, it's not the only API
> > change I'm looking to make here - I'd like to have all the
> > functions start returning details of the state of the ring, rather
> > than have the watermarks facility. If we add all new functions for
> > this and keep the old ones around, we are just increasing our
> > maintenance burden.
> > 
> > I'd like other opinions here. Do we see increasing the API surface
> > as the best solution, or are we ok to change the APIs of a key
> > library like the rings one?  
> 
> I am ok with changing API to make both _bulk and _burst return the
> same thing. Konstantin 

I agree that the _bulk() functions returning 0 or -err can be confusing.
But it has at least one advantage: it explicitly shows that if user ask
for N enqueues/dequeues, it will either get N or 0, not something
between.

Changing the API of the existing _bulk() functions looks a bit
dangerous to me. There's probably a lot of code relying on the ring
API, and changing its behavior may break it.

I'd prefer to deprecate the old _bulk and _burst functions, and
introduce a new api, maybe something like:

  rte_ring_generic_dequeue(ring, objs, n, behavior, flags)
  -> return nb_objs or -err


Olivier

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 12:14 Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 12:16 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 13:20 ` Olivier MATZ
2017-01-25 13:54   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 14:48     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 15:59       ` Wiles, Keith
2017-01-25 16:57         ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 17:29           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-01-31 10:53             ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2017-01-31 11:41               ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-31 12:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-31 13:27                   ` Olivier Matz
2017-01-31 13:46                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 22:27           ` Wiles, Keith
2017-01-25 16:39   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 00/19] ring cleanup and generalization Bruce Richardson
2017-02-14  8:32   ` Olivier Matz
2017-02-14  9:39     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 01/19] app/pdump: fix duplicate macro definition Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 02/19] ring: remove split cacheline build setting Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 03/19] ring: create common structure for prod and cons metadata Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 04/19] ring: add a function to return the ring size Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 05/19] crypto/null: use ring size function Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 06/19] ring: eliminate duplication of size and mask fields Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 07/19] ring: remove debug setting Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 08/19] ring: remove the yield when waiting for tail update Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 09/19] ring: remove watermark support Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 10/19] ring: make bulk and burst fn return vals consistent Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 11/19] ring: allow enq fns to return free space value Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 12/19] examples/quota_watermark: use ring space for watermarks Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 13/19] ring: allow dequeue fns to return remaining entry count Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 14/19] ring: reduce scope of local variables Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 15/19] ring: separate out head index manipulation for enq/deq Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 16/19] ring: create common function for updating tail idx Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 17/19] ring: allow macros to work with any type of object Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 18/19] ring: add object size parameter to memory size calculation Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 19/19] ring: add event ring implementation Bruce Richardson

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