From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ring: allow rings with non power-of-2 sizes
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:24:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170630142438.293c8e06@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170630113227.GG14776@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 12:32:27 +0100, Bruce Richardson
<bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:40:46AM +0200, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Few comments inline.
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 14:36:16 +0100, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > The rte_rings traditionally have only supported having ring sizes as powers
> > > of 2, with the actual usable space being the size - 1. In some cases, for
> > > example, with an eventdev where we want to precisely control queue depths
> > > for latency, we need to allow ring sizes which are not powers of two so we
> > > add in an additional ring capacity value to allow that. For existing rings,
> > > this value will be size-1, i.e. the same as the mask, but if the new
> > > EXACT_SZ flag is passed on ring creation, the ring will have exactly the
> > > usable space requested, although the underlying memory size may be bigger.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> >
> > Specifying the exact wanted size looks to be a better API than the current
> > one, which is to give the power of two above the wanted value, knowing there
> > will be only size-1 elements available.
> >
> > What would you think about deprecating ring init/creation without this
> > flag in a few versions? Then, later, we could remove this flag and
> > the new behavior would become the default.
> >
>
> I'm not really sure it's necessary. For the vast majority of cases what
> we have now is fine, and it ensures that we maximise the ring space. I'd
> tend to keep the new behaviour for those cases where we really need it.
>
> It's a trade off between what we hide and expose:
> * current scheme hides the fact that you get one entry less than you ask
> for, but the memory space is as expected.
> * new scheme gives you exactly the entries you ask for, but hides the
> fact that you could be using up to double the memory space for the
> ring.
Yes, having 2 different behavior is precisely what I don't really like.
Giving the number of entries the user asks for is straightforward, which
is a good thing for an API. And hiding the extra consumed memory looks
acceptable, this can be documented.
That said, if we decide to deprecate it, there's no need to do it right
now.
> > > @@ -845,69 +857,63 @@ rte_ring_dequeue(struct rte_ring *r, void **obj_p)
> > > }
> > >
> > > /**
> > > - * Test if a ring is full.
> > > + * Return the number of entries in a ring.
> > > *
> > > * @param r
> > > * A pointer to the ring structure.
> > > * @return
> > > - * - 1: The ring is full.
> > > - * - 0: The ring is not full.
> > > + * The number of entries in the ring.
> > > */
> > > -static inline int
> > > -rte_ring_full(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > +static inline unsigned
> > > +rte_ring_count(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > {
> > > uint32_t prod_tail = r->prod.tail;
> > > uint32_t cons_tail = r->cons.tail;
> > > - return ((cons_tail - prod_tail - 1) & r->mask) == 0;
> > > + return (prod_tail - cons_tail) & r->mask;
> > > }
> >
> > When used on a mc/mp ring, this function can now return a value
> > which is higher than the ring capacity. Even if this function is
> > not really accurate when used while the ring is use, I think we
> > should maximize the result with r->capacity.
> >
> > This will also avoid rte_ring_free_count() to return a overflowed
> > value.
> >
>
> How does it return an overflowing value? I think in the MP/MC case the
> tests made each time around the loop for cmpset should ensure we never
> overflow.
Here we are reading r->prod.tail and r->cons.tail without
synchronization, nor memory barriers. So basically, there is no
guarantee that the values are consistent.
Before, the returned value could be wrong, but always in the
interval [0, mask].
Now, rte_ring_count() is still in the interval [0, mask], but the
capacity of the ring is lower than mask. If rte_ring_count() returns
mask, it would cause rte_ring_free_count() to return a value lower than
0 (overflowed since the result is unsigned).
> > > @@ -916,7 +922,9 @@ rte_ring_free_count(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > * @param r
> > > * A pointer to the ring structure.
> > > * @return
> > > - * The number of elements which can be stored in the ring.
> > > + * The size of the data store used by the ring.
> > > + * NOTE: this is not the same as the usable space in the ring. To query that
> > > + * use ``rte_ring_get_capacity()``.
> > > */
> > > static inline unsigned int
> > > rte_ring_get_size(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > @@ -925,6 +933,20 @@ rte_ring_get_size(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > }
> > >
> > > /**
> > > + * Return the number of elements which can be stored in the ring.
> > > + *
> > > + * @param r
> > > + * A pointer to the ring structure.
> > > + * @return
> > > + * The usable size of the ring.
> > > + */
> > > +static inline unsigned int
> > > +rte_ring_get_capacity(const struct rte_ring *r)
> > > +{
> > > + return r->capacity;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +/**
> > > * Dump the status of all rings on the console
> > > *
> > > * @param f
> >
> > I think the users of rte_ring_get_size() use this API to get the
> > number of elements that can fit in the ring. The patch changes the
> > semantic of this function (even if the result is the same when
> > EXACT_SZ is not passed). This is the same for ring->size.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to rename all current occurences of "size" as
> > "storage_size", and introduce a new "size", which is what you call
> > "capacity".
> >
> > I'm asking the question but I'm not that convinced myself...
> > nevertheless I find storage_size/size less confusing than
> > size/capacity.
> >
> I went back and forward on this myself a bit too. However, the reason I
> went for this approach is purely one of backwards compatibility. For
> legacy apps unaware of the new apps, there is no change in behaviour or
> return value for the size function. For apps that are aware of this
> change there is the new function provided.
> If we did change size to be storage size, then you could end up getting
> off-by-one errors in apps that haven't been updated.
OK.
Olivier
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-30 12:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-07 13:36 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] create event rings type Bruce Richardson
2017-06-07 13:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ring: allow rings with non power-of-2 sizes Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 9:40 ` Olivier Matz
2017-06-30 11:32 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 12:24 ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2017-06-30 13:59 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-07 13:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] test/test: add unit tests for exact size rings Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 9:42 ` Olivier Matz
2017-06-07 13:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] eventdev: add ring structure for events Bruce Richardson
2017-06-12 5:15 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-12 8:53 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 13:24 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-07 13:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] test/test: add auto-tests for event ring functions Bruce Richardson
2017-06-07 13:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] event/sw: change worker rings to standard event rings Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] create event rings type Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] ring: allow rings with non power-of-2 sizes Bruce Richardson
2017-07-03 8:46 ` Olivier Matz
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] test/test: add unit tests for exact size rings Bruce Richardson
2017-07-03 8:47 ` Olivier Matz
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] eventdev: add ring structure for events Bruce Richardson
2017-07-03 9:52 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] test/test: add auto-tests for event ring functions Bruce Richardson
2017-07-03 12:30 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] event/sw: change worker rings to standard event rings Bruce Richardson
2017-07-03 12:28 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-07-03 12:44 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-07-03 13:01 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-07-04 5:36 ` Jerin Jacob
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