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From: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
To: Jia He <hejianet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Zhao, Bing" <ilovethull@163.com>,
	Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"jia.he@hxt-semitech.com" <jia.he@hxt-semitech.com>,
	"jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com" <jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com>,
	"bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com" <bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ring: guarantee ordering of cons/prod loading when doing enqueue/dequeue
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:13:21 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171020054319.GA4249@jerin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e580cd7-2854-d855-be9c-7c4ce06e3ed5@gmail.com>

-----Original Message-----
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:57:58 +0800
> From: Jia He <hejianet@gmail.com>
> To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>, "Zhao, Bing"
>  <ilovethull@163.com>, Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
> Cc: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
>  "jia.he@hxt-semitech.com" <jia.he@hxt-semitech.com>,
>  "jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com" <jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com>,
>  "bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com" <bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com>, "Richardson,
>  Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ring: guarantee ordering of cons/prod
>  loading when doing enqueue/dequeue
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> 
> 
> 
> On 10/20/2017 4:02 AM, Ananyev, Konstantin Wrote:
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:15 PM
> > > To: Zhao, Bing <ilovethull@163.com>; Jia He <hejianet@gmail.com>; Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
> > > Cc: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>; dev@dpdk.org; jia.he@hxt-semitech.com; jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com; bing.zhao@hxt-
> > > semitech.com
> > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ring: guarantee ordering of cons/prod loading when doing enqueue/dequeue
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On 2017/10/19 18:02, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jia,
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 10/13/2017 9:02 AM, Jia He Wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Jerin
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 10/13/2017 1:23 AM, Jerin Jacob Wrote:
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:05:50 +0000
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > On the same lines,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jia He, jie2.liu, bing.zhao,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is this patch based on code review or do you saw this issue on any of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > arm/ppc target? arm64 will have performance impact with this change.
> > > > > > sorry, miss one important information
> > > > > > Our platform is an aarch64 server with 46 cpus.
> > > > > > If we reduced the involved cpu numbers, the bug occurred less frequently.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, mb barrier impact the performance, but correctness is more
> > > > > > important, isn't it ;-)
> > > > > > Maybe we can  find any other lightweight barrier here?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Jia
> > > > > > > Based on mbuf_autotest, the rte_panic will be invoked in seconds.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > PANIC in test_refcnt_iter():
> > > > > > > (lcore=0, iter=0): after 10s only 61 of 64 mbufs left free
> > > > > > > 1: [./test(rte_dump_stack+0x38) [0x58d868]]
> > > > > > > Aborted (core dumped)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > So is it only reproducible with mbuf refcnt test?
> > > > > Could it be reproduced with some 'pure' ring test
> > > > > (no mempools/mbufs refcnt, etc.)?
> > > > > The reason I am asking - in that test we also have mbuf refcnt updates
> > > > > (that's what for that test was created) and we are doing some optimizations here too
> > > > > to avoid excessive atomic updates.
> > > > > BTW, if the problem is not reproducible without mbuf refcnt,
> > > > > can I suggest to extend the test  with:
> > > > >     - add a check that enqueue() operation was successful
> > > > >     - walk through the pool and check/printf refcnt of each mbuf.
> > > > > Hopefully that would give us some extra information what is going wrong here.
> > > > > Konstantin
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > Currently, the issue is only found in this case here on the ARM
> > > > platform, not sure how it is going with the X86_64 platform
> > > I understand that it is only reproducible on arm so far.
> > > What I am asking - with dpdk is there any other way to reproduce it (on arm)
> > > except then running mbuf_autotest?
> > > Something really simple that not using mbuf/mempool etc?
> > > Just do dequeue/enqueue from multiple threads and check data integrity at the end?
> > > If not  - what makes you think that the problem is precisely in rte_ring code?
> > > Why not in rte_mbuf let say?
> > Actually I reread your original mail and finally get your point.
> > If I understand you correctly the problem with read reordering here is that
> > after we read prot.tail but before we read cons.head
> > both cons.head and prod.tail might be updated,
> > but for us prod.tail change might be unnoticed.
> > As an example:
> > time 0 (cons.head == 0, prod.tail == 0):
> > prod_tail = r->prod.tail; /* due read reordering */
> > /* prod_tail == 0 */
> > 
> >   time 1 (cons.head ==5, prod.tail == 5):
> > *old_head = r->cons.head;
> > /* cons.head == 5 */
> > *entries = (prod_tail - *old_head);
> > /* *entries == (0 - 5) == 0xFFFFFFFB */
> > 
> > And we will move our cons.head forward, even though there are no filled entries in the ring.
> > Is that right?
> Yes
> > As I side notice, I wonder why we have here:
> > *entries = (prod_tail - *old_head);
> > instead of:
> > *entries = r->size + prod_tail - *old_head;
> > ?
> Yes, I agree with you at this code line.
> But reordering will still mess up things even after this change(I have
> tested, still the same as before)
> I thought the *entries is a door to prevent consumer from moving forward too
> fast than the producer.
> But in some cases, it is correct that prod_tail is smaller than *old_head
> due to  the cirular queue.
> In other cases, it is incorrect because of read/read reordering.
> 
> AFAICT, the root cause here is the producer tail and cosumer head are
> dependant on each other.
> Thus a memory barrier is neccessary.

Yes. The barrier is necessary.
In fact, upstream freebsd fixed this issue for arm64. DPDK ring
implementation is derived from freebsd's buf_ring.h.
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/sys/sys/buf_ring.h#L166

I think, the only outstanding issue is, how to reduce the performance
impact for arm64. I believe using accurate/release semantics instead
of rte_smp_rmb() will reduce the performance overhead like similar ring implementations below,
freebsd: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/sys/sys/buf_ring.h#L166 
odp: https://github.com/Linaro/odp/blob/master/platform/linux-generic/pktio/ring.c

Jia,
1) Can you verify the use of accurate/release semantics fixes the problem in your
platform? like use of atomic_load_acq* in the reference code.
2) If so, What is the overhead between accurate/release and plane smp_smb()
barriers. Based on that we need decide what path to take.

Note:
This issue wont come in all the arm64 implementation. it comes on arm64
implementation with OOO(out of order) implementations.


> 
> Cheers,
> Jia
> 
> > 
> > Konstantin
> > 
> > > > . In another
> > > > mail of this thread, we've made a simple test based on this and captured
> > > > some information and I pasted there.(I pasted the patch there :-))
> > > Are you talking about that one:
> > > http://dpdk.org/dev/patchwork/patch/30405/
> > > ?
> > > It still uses test/test/test_mbuf.c...,
> > > but anyway I don't really understand how mbuf_autotest supposed
> > > to work with these changes:
> > > @@ -730,7 +739,7 @@ test_refcnt_iter(unsigned int lcore, unsigned int iter,
> > > rte_ring_enqueue(refcnt_mbuf_ring, m);
> > >                           }
> > >                   }
> > > -               rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> > > +               // rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> > >           }
> > > @@ -741,6 +750,12 @@ test_refcnt_iter(unsigned int lcore, unsigned int iter,
> > >           while (!rte_ring_empty(refcnt_mbuf_ring))
> > >                   ;
> > > 
> > > +       if (NULL != m) {
> > > +               if (1 != rte_mbuf_refcnt_read(m))
> > > +                       printf("m ref is %u\n", rte_mbuf_refcnt_read(m));
> > > +               rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> > > +       }
> > > +
> > >           /* check that all mbufs are back into mempool by now */
> > >           for (wn = 0; wn != REFCNT_MAX_TIMEOUT; wn++) {
> > >                   if ((i = rte_mempool_avail_count(refcnt_pool)) == n) {
> > > 
> > > That means all your mbufs (except the last one) will still be allocated.
> > > So the test would fail - as it should, I think.
> > > 
> > > > And
> > > > it seems that Juhamatti & Jacod found some reverting action several
> > > > months ago.
> > > Didn't get that one either.
> > > Konstantin
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-20  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-10  9:56 Jia He
2017-10-12 15:53 ` Olivier MATZ
2017-10-12 16:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-10-12 17:05   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-12 17:23     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-13  1:02       ` Jia He
2017-10-13  1:15         ` Jia He
2017-10-13  1:16         ` Jia He
2017-10-13  1:49           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-13  3:23             ` Jia He
2017-10-13  5:57               ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-13  7:33             ` Jianbo Liu
2017-10-13  8:20               ` Jia He
2017-10-19 10:02           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-19 11:18             ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-19 14:15               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-19 20:02                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-20  1:57                   ` Jia He
2017-10-20  5:43                     ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2017-10-23  8:49                       ` Jia He
2017-10-23  9:05                         ` Kuusisaari, Juhamatti
2017-10-23  9:10                           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-10-23 10:06                         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-24  2:04                           ` Jia He
2017-10-25 13:26                             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-26  2:27                               ` Jia He
2017-10-31  2:55                               ` Jia He
2017-10-31 11:14                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-01  2:53                                   ` Jia He
2017-11-01 19:04                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-02  1:09                                       ` Jia He
2017-11-02  8:57                                       ` Jia He
2017-11-03  2:55                                         ` Jia He
2017-11-03 12:47                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-01  4:48                                   ` Jia He
2017-11-01 19:10                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-20  7:03                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-13  0:24     ` Liu, Jie2
2017-10-13  2:12       ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-13  2:34         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-16 10:51       ` Kuusisaari, Juhamatti

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