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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarguil@6wind.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] testpmd: add nanosleep in main loop
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:14:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171110111451.GA9164@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffb7ed09-e943-8a16-1be0-74e2ac3ce788@redhat.com>

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:42:56AM +0100, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2017 11:14 AM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > Agree with Adrian here - the patch doesn't fix the problem in any case,
> 
> I would agree with you if it were possible to assume one can fully
> isolate a CPU on Linux... but it is not...
> 
> This:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/659490/
> 
> is still an open issue, and the reason why it is an open issue is the
> kernel threads that need to run on every CPU, mainly when using the
> PREEMPT_RT, which turns almost everything on threads.
> 
> > while introducing an unnecessary slowdown in testpmd iofwd mode.
> > Please think up some other approach.
> 
> The other approach is to increase the priority of all other threads that
> run on the isolate CPU. But that is not a good idea at all, as the other
> threads might preempt the busy-loop thread at the worst possible moment.
> 
> Using the knowledge of the thread about when it is the best time to give
> a chance for other threads to run would be a smarter decision.
> 
I don't like having this in the main loop either, and to echo others I
wouldn't have thought that testpmd was actually used as anything other
than a testing app. Also, I would have thought that running it at
realtime priority wouldn't be a good idea, because of exactly this
problem.

On the specifics of the solution, would using sched_yield() rather than
nanosleep not be more suitable, given that the reason for this sleep is
just to give the CPU to other threads?

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-10 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-10  6:02 Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-10  9:12 ` Adrien Mazarguil
2017-11-10 10:13   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-10 10:14   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-11-10 10:42     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-11-10 11:14       ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2017-11-10 13:51         ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-11-11  3:59           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-11  4:01             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-11  3:54         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-11  3:49     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-12 23:14       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-11-13 18:01         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-11-11  3:45   ` Marcelo Tosatti

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