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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] ethdev: add port ownership
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:27:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180119152742.GB9519@hmswarspite.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1526278.zylApLv2LJ@xps>

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 03:13:47PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 19/01/2018 14:30, Neil Horman:
> > So it seems like the real point of contention that we need to settle here is,
> > what codifies an 'owner'.  Must it be a specific execution context, or can we
> > define any arbitrary section of code as being an owner?  I would agrue against
> > the latter.
> 
> This is the first thing explained in the cover letter:
> "2. The port usage synchronization will be managed by the port owner."
> There is no intent to manage the threads synchronization for a given port.
> It is the responsibility of the owner (a code object) to configure its
> port via only one thread.
> It is consistent with not trying to manage threads synchronization
> for Rx/Tx on a given queue.
> 
> 
Yes, in his cover letter, and I contend that notion is an invalid design point.
By codifying an area of code as an 'owner', rather than an execution context,
you're defining the notion of heirarchy, not ownership. That is to say,
you want to codify the notion that there are top level ports that the
application might see, and some of those top level ports are parents to
subordinate ports, which only the parent port should access directly.  If thats
all you want to encode, there are far easier ways to do it:

struct rte_eth_shared_data {
	< existing bits >
	struct rte_eth_port_list {
		struct rte_eth_port_list *children;
		struct rte_eth_port_list *parent;
	};
};


Build an api around a structure like that, so that the parent/child relationship
is globally clear, and this would be much easier, especially if you want to
continue asserting that the notion of synchronization/exclusion is an exercise
left to the application.

Neil

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-19 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 212+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-28 11:57 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] ethdev: Port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] ethdev: free a port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 12:36   ` Neil Horman
2017-11-30 13:24     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 14:30       ` Matan Azrad
2017-11-30 15:09         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-11-30 15:43           ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-01 12:09       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-03  8:04         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-03 11:10           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-03 13:46             ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 16:01               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-04 18:10                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-04 22:30                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05  6:08                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-05 10:05                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-08 11:35                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-08 12:31                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 17:06                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-21 17:43                               ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 19:37                                 ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-21 20:14                                   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-21 21:57                                     ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-22 14:26                                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-23 22:36                                         ` Matan Azrad
2017-12-29 16:56                                           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-05 19:26                       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 11:06                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 11:12               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:44                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 14:56                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-05 14:57                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 11:47                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 15:13                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-12-05 15:49                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-11-28 11:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2017-11-28 11:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] ethdev: " Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-10 13:36     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-10 16:58       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-11 12:40         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-11 14:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-12  0:02             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-12  7:24               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 11:45                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-15 13:09                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-15 18:43                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16  8:04                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16 19:11                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-16 20:32                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 11:24                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 12:05                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 12:54                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 13:10                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 16:52                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-17 18:02                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 20:34                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:17                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:26                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:41                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 14:45                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 14:51                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 15:00                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17 14:00                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:01                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 13:10                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:00                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:54                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 17:20                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 18:41                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 20:21                                               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  1:41                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19  7:14                                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19  9:30                                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-19 10:44                                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:30                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:57                                                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 14:13                                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 15:27                                                             ` Neil Horman [this message]
2018-01-19 17:17                                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:43                                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:12                                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 19:47                                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 20:19                                                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 22:52                                                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-20  3:38                                                                         ` Tuxdriver
2018-01-20 12:54                                                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 14:02                                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:55                                                       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 13:52                                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 16:27                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-17 17:58                                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 13:20                                     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-18 14:52                                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:57                                         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 14:07                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 14:32                                             ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 17:09                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 17:37                                                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 18:10                                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:12                                                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:58     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 10:32     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 11:16       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:35         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-07  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 11:39     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 12:30       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 13:30         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 13:55           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-08 14:21             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-08 14:42               ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-16  5:53     ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-16  8:15       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-17  0:46         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-17  8:51           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18  0:53             ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-18 16:35   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:38       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-05 11:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 14:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-05 15:06           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-05 15:12             ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-27 22:37               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-28 12:07                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-03-30 10:39                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-19 11:07                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 12:16                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-25 12:30                         ` Ori Kam
2018-04-25 12:54                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-04-25 14:01                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 17:00       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:40       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-20 16:48         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 17:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:11       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:41       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 20:43       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18 20:52         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 21:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19 12:47       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-18 16:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 12:37       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 12:51         ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 13:08           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-19 13:35             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-19 15:00               ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-20 18:14                 ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 10:17                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-22 11:22                     ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 12:28                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-22 13:22                   ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 20:48                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23  8:54                       ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-23 12:56                         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2018-01-23 14:30                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  9:36                             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-25 10:05                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:15                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:33                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:55                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 13:34                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 14:18                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 15:12                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 15:18                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-23 17:33                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 21:18                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-24  8:10                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-24 18:30                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 10:55                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 11:09                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-01-25 11:27                                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-23 14:43                           ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-21 20:43         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-21 20:46         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-20 21:24       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] ethdev: fix port data reset timing Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] ethdev: fix used portid allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] ethdev: add port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] ethdev: synchronize port allocation Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] net/failsafe: free an eth port by a dedicated API Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] net/failsafe: use ownership mechanism to own ports Matan Azrad
2018-01-22 16:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] app/testpmd: adjust ethdev port ownership Matan Azrad
2018-01-25  1:47           ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-25  8:30             ` Matan Azrad
2018-01-26  0:50               ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2018-01-29 11:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Port ownership and synchronization Matan Azrad
2018-01-31 19:53           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-25 14:35     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Port ownership and syncronization Ferruh Yigit

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