From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl0-f42.google.com (mail-pl0-f42.google.com [209.85.160.42]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAB17CB6 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pl0-f42.google.com with SMTP id c7-v6so1600719plr.5 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:17:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7hkFqHpx2IMLACof6wPn65sa0OvLgw6MGRMmKT5ef0U=; b=KfrVeupHf3KEM3V7TEGRQrJDkyAutMoH45grZJAsEBkYAY36+N5vWZm42cWS4bTAzH 8Ui2fn7Tr+Es3Luf3zszUc4kfZVDVGXv7eJQXvaahTOS+QXFur09Bi4j8VKUPNL4nt5d 2bwj80byK0q3OQX0fSgKVNyv9DGYUID4Pk/wH2fXxjFEyafDcxO/jgX2RT0T44ztzwhb YqNb2jVx5b4iXrVMm0MSRHUcp9dmcYqTkffddA7eELAOv5aDlhBXZBFmJbXXLmCYpZmM KBRwtLStlYUx6vTT6DAlYwwYOyMkcjJHtA3tcFF9ZPqZgg7UJm/3P9J1MubVbs/ooa5H HDog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7hkFqHpx2IMLACof6wPn65sa0OvLgw6MGRMmKT5ef0U=; b=O01bDPI0shRLohrJEoXNwxGMPcMy3cVdj9eXtULBWtm4z72NI58Ji0CbUO4kkBoU60 FNz9KveaoRFKRp2oaPZKQyCTHIKVk7iXyKcMufcrC6P2hHbye2AhLZH/VtJY1aLu3ppi XCdgUw+mjeLdngSVKJ80ae+ioTnx6hqKR6ksxnmdew0zYwW7PfLvO+adsfSzCRGLG81z 3uBma7Fz1fFV/eRc0e7VNiY5mMYfLRXi3RdA0fkxzmjuGOvD68ET30JnWzFMAc5KraEM df0WN6NRmQKknua7SWc/NVvtxefYZBxua0JgJck/w2Sz4h59bmJapGXFmPRvOQ7HAb3D GzCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tD587u45CnlHuf6ODfSCxjEAVjmxYew61/pZULTPaqg4CL7Pslo 39zqYZVnbwAQ9kbXtzwqQYpjdA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+EuO1EmMLV0rJVdz7Iikt0RSKA83O3jUWodWy6jWB6c5DGbSJOX84Y3XdI1CcLgPvuwLbOeQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:be08:: with SMTP id r8-v6mr2956553pls.289.1524075470377; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xeon-e3 (204-195-71-95.wavecable.com. [204.195.71.95]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w134sm3759016pfd.132.2018.04.18.11.17.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:17:47 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Flavio Leitner Cc: Thomas Monjalon , dev@dpdk.org, bruce.richardson@intel.com, anatoly.burakov@intel.com, pmatilai@redhat.com, david.marchand@6wind.com, jia.guo@intel.com, matan@mellanox.com, konstantin.ananyev@intel.com Message-ID: <20180418111747.1a0033a1@xeon-e3> In-Reply-To: <20180418141101.GB2549@plex.lan> References: <2407757.yEAnF6RcS7@xps> <20180418141101.GB2549@plex.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] kernel binding of devices + hotplug X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:17:51 -0000 On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:11:01 -0300 Flavio Leitner wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 01:48:36AM +0000, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > My vote is to work with udev and not try to replace it. > > > > Driverctl works well. Just not for bifurcated driver > > I second that. We also have other system configs to care about like > kernel parameters and hugepage configuration which I think follow the > same idea that they are system wide configs and should not be managed > by DPDK itself. Maybe teach driverctl (and udev) to handle bifurcated drivers. Unfortunately, vendors are very fractured on how network devices are managed.