From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-f182.google.com (mail-qk0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0EA6CD2 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:54:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id s70so2857306qks.13 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:54:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=badbXQvqUIJjUTIjrGRt24EZ8ynqSHt2Vemw22IKBvg=; b=IeqVxGbawoZYxllAkLCMD45PZqNzWzOF8aKQmiMCG0qYRMXBNrRYYVFGz3IUlS+b4O C8IWJGhGRB8LOYKoMTwu5KsWXR/pj8vmm5P7lGMxlNM736uveHrdHOLY9wZHa8N2ukhY hPtPHzJ6K1rtjpOKAWEZ6L+3v8BU3vdQ6V0wCqH8WjuJxIDQSDMrLncwWezODRhp/taO k6sk+QVqJe5YY/bFNaeRLbBKSS5osJYls7BC82kNABHnLBxV6c9RmHj+wZCZnHThyK2h qh7ezMsctNAxxQhyiLsBMw/kyz/bv7svrmQoVZ9jlCL5+whXuOXVgJGEGxsPU8FJ65+X bpEg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCSa+KyIBzjX4ves3tPWtGe5WxCABG5qN5SVgufQTRvSaStkSXW 2iCX+pO5qdQugaXkjwCJGGmF4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrGgHnpMSqlTjrCh9EZAIzdBbcaCFlt0UrYEIL9Mquk4fG48mnpOvvO4bm/7FH8dSAmHsVq8Q== X-Received: by 10.55.155.211 with SMTP id d202mr3026967qke.337.1524077655752; Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([177.183.215.231]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c186sm1376462qke.33.2018.04.18.11.54.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:54:11 -0300 From: Flavio Leitner To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: Thomas Monjalon , dev@dpdk.org, bruce.richardson@intel.com, anatoly.burakov@intel.com, david.marchand@6wind.com, jia.guo@intel.com, matan@mellanox.com, konstantin.ananyev@intel.com Message-ID: <20180418185411.GK2549@plex.lan> References: <2407757.yEAnF6RcS7@xps> <20180418141101.GB2549@plex.lan> <20180418111747.1a0033a1@xeon-e3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180418111747.1a0033a1@xeon-e3> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] kernel binding of devices + hotplug X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:54:16 -0000 On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:17:47AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:11:01 -0300 > Flavio Leitner wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 01:48:36AM +0000, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > My vote is to work with udev and not try to replace it. > > > > > > Driverctl works well. Just not for bifurcated driver > > > > I second that. We also have other system configs to care about like > > kernel parameters and hugepage configuration which I think follow the > > same idea that they are system wide configs and should not be managed > > by DPDK itself. > > Maybe teach driverctl (and udev) to handle bifurcated drivers. I don't know the challenges to tech driverctl to handle bifurcated drivers but I would agree that it should be our first place to look at. > Unfortunately, vendors are very fractured on how network devices are managed. You mean distros? hw vendors? all vendors? :) Perhaps if community focus on something, then they might follow at some point. -- Flavio