From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Dan Gora <dg@adax.com>
Cc: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/10] kni: add API to set link status on kernel interface
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:10:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180829161043.11bb2434@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGyogRbBBAU92KdqVwghpon1brMo=4XJNPotiBYpztQkzB4mGQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 19:41:23 -0300
Dan Gora <dg@adax.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Dan Gora <dg@adax.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:00 PM, Stephen Hemminger
> > <stephen@networkplumber.org> wrote:
> >>> >> Add a new API function to KNI, rte_kni_update_link() to allow DPDK
> >>> >> applications to update the link state for the KNI network interfaces
> >>> >> in the linux kernel.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Note that the default carrier state is set to off when the interface
> >>> >> is opened.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Signed-off-by: Dan Gora <dg@adax.com>
> >>> >
> >>> > Do you really need a special ioctl for this?
> >>> > There is already ability to set link state via sysfs or netlink.
> >>>
> >>> I think yes.. AFAIK sysfs does not constitute a stable API;
> >>
> >> It is a stable API on Linux.
> >
>
> Actually this does not seem to be completely true...
>
> From Documentation/admin-guide/sysfs-rules.rst:
>
> Rules on how to access information in sysfs
> ===========================================
>
> The kernel-exported sysfs exports internal kernel implementation details
> and depends on internal kernel structures and layout. It is agreed upon
> by the kernel developers that the Linux kernel does not provide a stable
> internal API. Therefore, there are aspects of the sysfs interface that
> may not be stable across kernel releases.
>
> <snip>
>
> - devices are only "devices"
> There is no such thing like class-, bus-, physical devices,
> interfaces, and such that you can rely on in userspace. Everything is
> just simply a "device". Class-, bus-, physical, ... types are just
> kernel implementation details which should not be expected by
> applications that look for devices in sysfs.
>
> The properties of a device are:
>
> - devpath (``/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0``)
> <snip>
>
> - kernel name (``sda``, ``tty``, ``0000:00:1f.2``, ...)
> <snip>
>
> - subsystem (``block``, ``tty``, ``pci``, ...)
> <snip>
>
> - driver (``tg3``, ``ata_piix``, ``uhci_hcd``)
> <snip>
>
> - attributes
> <snip>
>
> Everything else is just a kernel driver-core implementation detail
> that should not be assumed to be stable across kernel releases.
Network device sysfs is stable. No one ever got around to putting it in documentation
I wouldn't worry, once anything in /sys/class/net is added it is not going to change without major breakage in many many tools.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-29 23:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-28 22:45 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/10] kni: Interface detach and link status fixes Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:54 ` Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/10] kni: remove unused variables from struct kni_dev Dan Gora
2018-08-29 10:29 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/10] kni: separate releasing netdev from freeing KNI interface Dan Gora
2018-08-29 10:59 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-09-04 0:20 ` Dan Gora
2018-09-04 0:36 ` Dan Gora
2018-10-10 17:24 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-10-10 18:18 ` Dan Gora
2018-10-10 22:51 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-10-10 23:38 ` Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/10] kni: don't touch struct kni_dev after freeing Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/10] kni: add rte_kni_free to KNI library Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/10] kni: don't run rte_kni_handle_request after interface release Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/10] kni: increase length of timeout for KNI responses Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/10] kni: update kni test for rte_kni_free Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/10] kni: add rte_kni_free to KNI example app Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/10] kni: add rte_kni_free to KNI vdev driver Dan Gora
2018-06-29 1:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/10] kni: add API to set link status on kernel interface Dan Gora
2018-08-29 11:48 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-08-29 21:10 ` Dan Gora
2018-08-29 22:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-29 15:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-29 21:02 ` Dan Gora
2018-08-29 22:00 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-29 22:12 ` Dan Gora
2018-08-29 22:41 ` Dan Gora
2018-08-29 23:10 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2018-08-30 9:49 ` Igor Ryzhov
2018-08-30 10:32 ` Igor Ryzhov
2018-08-30 21:41 ` Dan Gora
2018-08-30 22:09 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-30 22:11 ` Dan Gora
2018-09-04 0:47 ` Dan Gora
2018-09-05 12:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-11 21:45 ` Dan Gora
2018-09-11 21:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-11 22:07 ` Dan Gora
2018-09-11 23:14 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-12 4:02 ` Jason Wang
2018-09-11 23:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] " Dan Gora
2018-09-11 23:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] " Dan Gora
2018-09-11 23:18 ` Dan Gora
2018-07-20 11:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/10] kni: Interface detach and link status fixes Ferruh Yigit
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