From: Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Cc: Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
dev@dpdk.org, "techboard@dpdk.org" <techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] DPDK ABI/API Stability
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 17:56:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d4dfde3-cf8c-8220-18a3-1542567cc3eb@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190404165651.C-nnT9As6ObLe_iETBpohF04aE6kJxuqnDudomilJ5U@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190404105447.GA1351@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>
On 04/04/2019 11:54, Bruce Richardson wrote:
<snip>
>
> My thoughts on the matter are:
> 1. I think we really need to do work to start hiding more of our data
> structures - like what Stephen's latest RFC does. This hiding should reduce
> the scope for ABI breaks.
> 2. Once done, I think we should commit to having an ABI break only in the
> rarest of circumstances, and only with very large justification. I want us
> to get to the point where DPDK releases can immediately be picked up by all
> linux distros and rolled out because they are ABI compatible.
>
Maybe techboard should explicitly approve ABI breaks and new APIs (or
APIs at transition from experimental to core). Just as a way to get more
eyeballs and scrutiny on them.
> I'm not sure I like the idea of planned ABI break releases - that strikes
> me as a plan where we end up with the same number of ABI breaks as before,
> just balled into one release.
>
> Question for Kevin, Luca and others who look at distro-packaging: is it the
> case that each distro will only ship one version of DPDK, or is it possible
> that if we have ABI breaks, a distro will provide two copies of DPDK
> simultaneously, e.g. a 19.11 ABI version and a 20.11 ABI version?
>
It would probably double validation and maintenance, so it would require
a lot of extra effort.
>
> So, in short, I'm generally in favour of a zero-tolerance approach for DPDK
> ABI breaks, and having ABI breaks as a major event reserved only for
> massive rework changes, such as major mbuf changes, or new memory layout or
> similar.
>
> Regards,
> /Bruce
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-04 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-03 15:42 [dpdk-dev] " Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 15:42 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 19:53 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-03 19:53 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 9:29 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 9:29 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 10:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 10:54 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 12:02 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:02 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:05 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:05 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 13:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-05 13:25 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:25 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-07 9:37 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07 9:37 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-04 13:21 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:21 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:52 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 12:52 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 14:07 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 14:07 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-07 9:48 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07 9:48 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-08 9:04 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 9:04 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 10:15 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 10:15 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:00 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 13:00 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 13:38 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:38 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:58 ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 13:58 ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:02 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:02 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:38 ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:38 ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:49 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:49 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-10 8:35 ` David Marchand
2019-04-10 8:35 ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:50 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:50 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-09 9:42 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-09 9:42 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-14 0:42 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-14 0:42 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-15 9:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-15 9:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 15:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 15:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 16:37 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:37 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:56 ` Kevin Traynor [this message]
2019-04-04 16:56 ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 19:08 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 19:08 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 20:13 ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 20:13 ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-05 13:30 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:30 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 9:47 ` [dpdk-dev] " Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 9:47 ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 13:16 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:16 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-10 5:14 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10 5:14 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10 9:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10 9:03 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10 9:43 ` [dpdk-dev] " Luca Boccassi
2019-04-10 9:43 ` Luca Boccassi
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