From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] eal: make rte_rand() MT safe
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 20:04:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6ff7265-872a-c49a-4325-780448398198@ericsson.com> (raw)
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On 2019-04-05 18:57, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
> rand48 is a terrible PRNG, why not use something better?
>
> Similar discussion in Linux kernel pointed at:
> http://www.pcg-random.org/posts/some-prng-implementations.html
>
> Mail thread here:
> https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg560231.html
>
DPDK was already using lrand48(), I primarily wanted to address
lrand48()'s lack of MT safety, nothing else.
That said, maybe the easiest way to maintain the current API, provide MT
safety and have something portable is for DPDK to carry its own random
number generator, instead of relying on libc.
Maybe an ARC4 port from BSD? But instead of pulling entropy from the
kernel, let the user give the seed, like the current DPDK APIs permit.
You could deprecate rte_srand(), but I would vote against such a move,
because its sometimes useful to able to have something that is "random",
yet reproducible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-05 18:04 UTC|newest]
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2019-04-05 13:45 Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 13:45 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 13:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 13:51 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 14:28 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-05 14:28 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-05 14:56 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 14:56 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 16:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-05 16:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-05 18:04 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2019-04-05 18:04 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-05 20:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-05 20:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-06 5:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-06 5:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/3] Replace lrand48-based rte_rand with LFSR generator Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 2/3] Add 32-bit version of rte_rand Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/3] Introduce random generator functions with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/3] Replace lrand48-based rte_rand with LFSR generator Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-08 12:47 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 0/2] Pseudo-number generation improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 1/2] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 11:34 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-22 11:34 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-22 14:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-22 14:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-22 15:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 15:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 17:44 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 17:44 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-23 11:33 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-23 11:33 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-23 17:13 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-23 17:13 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 11:37 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-24 11:37 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-23 15:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-23 15:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-23 17:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-23 17:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 7:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 7:52 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 12:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v3 0/2] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 12:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 12:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v3 1/2] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 12:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-08 20:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-08 20:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-08 20:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-08 20:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-09 1:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-09 1:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/6] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/6] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:32 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 14:16 ` Neil Horman
2019-05-14 14:16 ` Neil Horman
2019-05-14 14:53 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 14:53 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-17 19:27 ` Neil Horman
2019-05-17 20:57 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-17 21:10 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-19 18:32 ` Neil Horman
2019-05-14 15:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-14 15:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/6] eal: add pseudo-random number generation performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/6] eal: improve entropy for initial PRNG seed Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:39 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-14 9:39 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-14 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:37 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-14 9:37 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/6] eal: introduce random generator function with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/6] eal: add bounded PRNG performance tests Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/6] eal: add pseudo-random number generation to MAINTAINERS Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-14 9:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] eal: add pseudo-random number generation performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] eal: improve entropy for initial PRNG seed Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] eal: introduce random generator function with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] eal: add bounded PRNG performance tests Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 17:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] eal: add PRNG to MAINTAINERS and release notes Mattias Rönnblom
2019-05-16 20:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Bruce Richardson
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] eal: add pseudo-random number generation performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-27 21:23 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-06-28 8:20 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] eal: improve entropy for initial PRNG seed Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] eal: introduce random generator function with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] eal: add bounded PRNG performance tests Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-05 10:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] eal: add PRNG to MAINTAINERS and release notes Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-27 21:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-06-28 8:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-15 12:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/5] " Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/5] eal: replace libc-based random number generation with LFSR Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/5] eal: add pseudo-random number generation performance test Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/5] eal: improve entropy for initial PRNG seed Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 19:01 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-06-28 20:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] eal: use 32-bit RDSEED to allow 32-bit x86 usage Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-29 12:54 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/5] eal: introduce random generator function with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/5] eal: add bounded PRNG performance tests Mattias Rönnblom
2019-06-28 13:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/5] Pseudo-random number generation improvements Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-24 12:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v3 2/2] eal: introduce random generator function with upper bound Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-24 12:33 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC v2 " Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-19 21:21 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-20 21:08 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-20 21:08 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-21 19:05 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-21 19:05 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 4:33 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-22 4:33 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-22 7:07 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 7:07 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2019-04-22 13:19 ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-22 13:19 ` Wiles, Keith
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