From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Should we disallow running secondaries after primary has died?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:39:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190726093951.GA1629@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29cf5458-8459-0187-13b1-44277283fc93@intel.com>
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:05:02AM +0100, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While investigating this bug:
>
> https://bugs.dpdk.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284
>
> I came across a realization that, when primary process dies, very little
> actually works. There are some documented issues that are already present
> when secondary processes keep running, like memory map becoming static, and
> hotplug not working any more.
>
> What is less known (and documented) is that VFIO also completely stops
> working when initializing processes, because some time since 18.xx releases,
> we've fixed a long standing VFIO-related bug that had to do with creating
> new containers every time a secondary is run - secondary processes will now
> reuse the primary process's container instead.
>
> Meaning, for VFIO devices, secondary process *initialization* will fail
> after primary process has died, because there is no longer a process from
> which we can get the VFIO container from. Things will still sort-of work
> with igb_uio or in vfio-noiommu mode, but again - no memory map updates, no
> hotplug, potentially other things that i don't even know about.
>
> Therefore, while ideally we would like people to have primary process always
> running, the least we can do to avoid documenting a complex matrix of "what
> is supported in which case" is to disallow secondary process initialization
> after primary process has died.
>
> ("disallow" as in "explicitly document it as unsupported", although we can
> also outright prevent it if we want - rte_eal_primary_proc_alive() will tell
> us that)
>
Documenting this limitation seems a good thing to do. I'm not sure that
it's worthwhile trying to make the scenario (of running a secondary after a
primary has terminated) supported.
/Bruce
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-26 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-26 9:05 Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-26 9:39 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2019-07-26 9:50 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-07-26 9:53 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-26 15:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-26 15:44 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-26 15:56 ` Lipiec, Herakliusz
2019-07-26 16:02 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-26 16:44 ` Lipiec, Herakliusz
2019-07-26 16:57 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-07-26 17:33 ` Lipiec, Herakliusz
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