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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>
Cc: Marcin Zapolski <marcinx.a.zapolski@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 1/2] ethdev: make DPDK core functions	non-inline
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:32:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190730153203.GA1689@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR18MB2424C7D1982A4A3D5ED76C76C8DC0@BYAPR18MB2424.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 03:01:00PM +0000, Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran wrote:
> > -----Original Message----- From: dev <dev-bounces@dpdk.org> On Behalf
> > Of Marcin Zapolski Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:20 PM To:
> > dev@dpdk.org Cc: Marcin Zapolski <marcinx.a.zapolski@intel.com>
> > Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 1/2] ethdev: make DPDK core functions
> > non- inline
> > 
> > Make rte_eth_rx_burst, rte_eth_tx_burst and other static inline ethdev
> > functions not inline. They are referencing DPDK internal structures and
> > inlining forces those structures to be exposed to user applications.
> > 
> > In internal testing with i40e NICs a performance drop of about 2% was
> > observed with testpmd.
> 
> I tested on two class of arm64 machines(Highend and lowend) one has 1.4%
> drop And other one has 3.6% drop.
>
This is with testpmd only right? I'd just point out that we need to
remember that these numbers need to be scaled down appropriately for a
realworld app where IO is only a (hopefully small) proportion of the packet
processing budget. For example, I would expect the ~2% drop we saw in
testpmd to correspond to <0.5% drop in something like OVS.
 
> I second to not expose internal data structure to avoid ABI break.
> 
> IMO, This patch has performance issue due to it is fixing it in simple
> way.
> 
> It is not worth two have function call overhead to call the driver
> function.  Some thoughts below to reduce the performance impact without
> exposing internal structures.
> 
The big concern I have with what you propose is that would involve changing
each and every ethdev driver in DPDK! I'd prefer to make sure that the
impact of this change is actually felt in real-world apps before we start
looking to make such updates across the DPDK codebase.

> And I think, We need to follow the similar mechanism for cryptodev, Eventdev, rawdev
> Etc so bring the common scheme to address this semantics will be use full.
> 
Agreed.

Regards,
/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-30 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-30 12:49 [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 0/2] Hide DPDK internal struct from public API Marcin Zapolski
2019-07-30 12:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 1/2] ethdev: make DPDK core functions non-inline Marcin Zapolski
2019-07-30 15:01   ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-07-30 15:32     ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2019-07-30 15:25   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-30 15:33     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-07-30 15:54       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-30 16:04         ` Wiles, Keith
2019-07-30 16:11         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-07-30 16:23           ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-30 12:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 2/2] ethdev: hide DPDK internal struct from public API Marcin Zapolski
2019-07-30 14:53   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-09-06 13:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 v2 0/3] Hide " Marcin Zapolski
2019-09-06 14:00   ` Bruce Richardson
2019-09-06 13:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 v2 1/3] ethdev: hide key ethdev structures " Marcin Zapolski
2019-09-06 14:37   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-09-09  8:07     ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-09  9:59       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-09-09 10:02         ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-09 10:24           ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-09-09 11:41             ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-14 10:34             ` Jerin Jacob
2019-09-06 17:24   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-09-09  9:01     ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-10  9:59   ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-10 10:06     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-09-10 10:13       ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-10 12:19         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-09-10 12:22           ` Zapolski, MarcinX A
2019-09-06 13:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 v2 2/3] i40e: make driver compatible with changes in ethdev Marcin Zapolski
2019-09-06 13:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 v2 3/3] ixgbe: " Marcin Zapolski
2019-07-30 15:45 [dpdk-dev] [RFC 19.11 1/2] ethdev: make DPDK core functions non-inline Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-07-30 16:05 ` Bruce Richardson

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