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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC 5/8] pdump: add classic BPF filtering
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 21:22:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191007212256.4bf37797@hermes.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALBAE1PoF9_+Ju=mWA_ZyPbyKKRf9n-_38T2rmcvKefvX=zryw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 09:45:45 +0530
Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Oct, 2019, 9:31 AM Stephen Hemminger, <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 09:17:08 +0530
> > Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > On Tue, 8 Oct, 2019, 3:15 AM Stephen Hemminger, <
> > stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 01:03:17 +0530
> > > > Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct, 2019, 11:03 PM Stephen Hemminger, <
> > > > stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 22:37:43 +0530
> > > > > > Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Oct, 2019, 10:23 PM Stephen Hemminger, <
> > > > > > stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Simple classic BPF interpreter based off of libpcap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is a copy of the BPF interpreter from libpcap which is
> > > > > > > > modified to handle mbuf meta data. The existing  
> > pcap_offline_filter  
> > > > > > > > does not expose a way to match VLAN tags. Copying the BPF  
> > > > interpreter  
> > > > > > > > also means that rte_pdump still does not have a hard dependency
> > > > > > > > on libpcap.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why not use DPDK's librte_bpf library? Rather implementing cBPF
> > > > > > > interpreter. Currently it supports eBPF which is super set of  
> > > > cBPF.if is  
> > > > > > > this features very specific to cBPF, we clould simply implement  
> > > > cBPF  
> > > > > > using  
> > > > > > > eBPF or implement a new cBPF program type. That scheme could  
> > leverage  
> > > > > > > existing JIT infrastructure also. Using JIT will improve  
> > filtering  
> > > > > > > performance.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because pcap library generates cBPF in its string to BPF compiler.
> > > > > > Translating cBPF to eBPF is non trivial.
> > > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > > Then at least cBPF interpreter should move to librte_bpf. We can  
> > hook to  
> > > > > JIT if required in future.  
> > > >
> > > > The opcodes for cBPF and eBPF are not compatiable.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > Yeah. I am saying to add new program type in bpf library of cBPF.  
> > Obviously  
> > > pdump is not the correct place for cBPF interpreter. Moving to rte_libbpf
> > > library would help to enable other applications or libraries to use cBPF
> > > bpf program class.  
> >
> > The problem is you need a version of string to BPF program which is what
> > the libpcap pcap_compile() function does for you. eBPF as used now is all
> > about having a full language (CLANG or GCC) and that is not what is needed
> > here at all.  The problem is not the interpreter, the problem is on the
> > userspace BPF side. Until/unless that is fixed, cBPF is a better solution.
> >  
> 
> 
> I am not saying to use eBPF with libpcap. All I am saying to move the cBPF
> interpreter code(this patch) to rte_libbpf as it is the correct place of
> that code in DPDK PoV. So that it can be used by another applications or
> library.
> 
> >  

Sure that make sense?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-08  4:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-07 16:52 [dpdk-dev] [RFC 0/8] Packet Capture enhancements Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 1/8] pdump: use new pktmbuf copy function Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 2/8] pdump: use dynamic logtype Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/8] pdump: tag copied mbuf with port Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 4/8] pdump: stamp packets with current timestamp Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 5/8] pdump: add classic BPF filtering Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 17:07   ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-07 17:33     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 19:33       ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-07 21:45         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-08  3:47           ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-08  4:01             ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-08  4:15               ` Jerin Jacob
2019-10-08  4:22                 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2019-10-08 21:08                   ` Morten Brørup
2019-10-09  8:21                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-09 14:59                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 6/8] pdump: add packet header truncation Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 7/8] pcapng: add new library for writing pcapng files Stephen Hemminger
2019-10-07 16:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC 8/8] app/capture: add packet capture using pcapng Stephen Hemminger

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