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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: Nithin Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>
Cc: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	Nithin Dabilpuram <nithind1988@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	Ori Kam <orika@mellanox.com>,
	Cristian Dumitrescu <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	John McNamara <john.mcnamara@intel.com>,
	Marko Kovacevic <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>,
	dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>, Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Krzysztof Kanas <kkanas@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [EXT] Re: [PATCH 1/3] mbuf: add Tx offloads for packet marking
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 14:27:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200504122735.GD6327@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200504100457.GB6153@outlook.office365.com>

On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 03:34:57PM +0530, Nithin Dabilpuram wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 11:16:40AM +0200, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 01:57:06PM +0530, Nithin Dabilpuram wrote:
> > > Hi Olivier,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 10:06:34AM +0200, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > > External Email
> > > > 
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 04:48:21PM +0530, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:53 PM Nithin Dabilpuram
> > > > > <nithind1988@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Nithin Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Introduce PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP, PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN
> > > > > > and PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI Tx offload flags to support
> > > > > > packet marking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When packet marking feature in Traffic manager is enabled,
> > > > > > application has to the use the three new flags to indicate
> > > > > > to PMD on whether packet marking needs to be enabled on the
> > > > > > specific mbuf or not. By setting the three flags, it is
> > > > > > assumed by PMD that application has already verified the
> > > > > > applicability of marking on that specific packet and
> > > > > > PMD need not perform further checks as per RFC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Krzysztof Kanas <kkanas@marvell.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Nithin Dabilpuram <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > None of the ethdev TM driver implementations has supported packet
> > > > > marking support.
> > > > > rte_tm and rte_mbuf maintainers(Christian, Oliver), Could you review this patch?
> > > > 
> > > > As you know, the number of mbuf flags is limited (only 18 bits are
> > > > remaining), so I think we should use them with care, i.e. for features
> > > > that are generic enough.
> > > 
> > > I agree, but I believe this is one of the basic flags needed like other 
> > > Tx checksum offload flags (like PKT_TX_IP_CKSUM, PKT_TX_IPV4, etc) which 
> > > are needed to identify on which packets HW should/can apply packet marking.
> > 
> > PKT_TX_IP_CKSUM tells the hardware to offload the checksum
> > calculation. This is pretty straightforward and there is no other
> > dependency than the offload feature advertised by the PMD.
> > 
> > I'm sorry, I have not a lot of experience with rte_tm.h, so it's
> > difficult for me to have a global view of what is done for instance when
> > PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI is set, and what happens when it is not set.
> > 
> > Can you confirm that my understanding below is correct? (or correct me
> > where I'm wrong)
> > 
> > Before your patch:
> > - the application enables the port and traffic manager on it
> > - the application calls rte_tm_mark_vlan_dei() to select which traffic
> >   class must be marked
> > - when a packet is transmitted, the traffic class is determined by the
> >   hardware, and if the hardware recognizes a VLAN packet, the VLAN DEI
> >   bit is set depending on traffic class
> > 
> > The problem is for packets that cannot be recognized by the hardware,
> > correct?
> 
> Yes. Octeontx2 HW always depends on application knowledge instead of walking 
> through all the layers of packet data in Tx to identify what packet it is 
> and where the l2, l3, l4 headers start for performance reasons. 
> 
> I believe there are other hardware too that have the same expectation
> and hence we have a need for PKT_TX_IPv4, PKT_TX_IPv6 kind of flags.
> 
> Hence we want to make use of mbuf:tx_offload field and PKT_TX_* flags 
> for identifying the packet and knowing what are its l2,l3,l4 offsets.

The objective is to give an indication to the hardware that the packet has:
- an 802.1q header at offset X for PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI
- an IP/IPv6 header at offset X for PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP
- an IP/IPv6 header at offset X and a TCP/SCTP header at offset Y for
  PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN

Just to be sure I'm getting the point, would it also work if with flags
like this:

- an 802.1q header at offset X for PKT_TX_HAS_VLAN
- an IP/IPv6 header at offset X for PKT_TX_IPv4 or PKT_TX_IPv6
- a TCP/SCTP header at offset Y for PKT_TX_TCP/PKT_TX_SCTP (implies
  PKT_TX_IPv4 or PKT_TX_IPv6)

The underlying question is: do we need the flags to only describe the
content of the packet or do the flag also indicate that an action has to
be done?

> > So your patch is a way to force the hardware to recognize mark set the
> > VLAN DEI on packets that are not recognized as VLAN packets?
> > 
> > How the is traffic class of the packet determined?
> 
> Packet is coloured based on Single Rate[1] or Dual Rate[2] Shaping result
> and packet color determines traffic class. The exact behavior of 
> packet color to traffic class mapping is mentioned in TM spec based on
> few other RFC's.
> 
> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2697
> [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2698

OK, so the traffic class does not depend on the packet type?


> > > > From what I understand, this feature is bound to octeontx2, so using a
> > > > mbuf dynamic flag would make more sense here. There are some examples in
> > > > dpdk repository, just grep for "dynflag".
> > > 
> > > This is not octeontx2 specific flag but any "packet marking feature" enabled
> > > PMD would need these flags to identify on which packets marking needs to be 
> > > done. This is the first PMD that supports packet marking feature and
> > > hence it was not exposed earlier.
> > > 
> > > For example to mark VLAN DEI, PMD cannot always assume that there is preexisting
> > > VLAN header from Byte 12 as there is no gaurantee that ethernet header
> > > always starts at Byte 0 (Custom headers before ethernet hdr).
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Also, I think that the feature availability should be advertised through
> > > > an ethdev offload, so an application can know at initialization time
> > > > that these flags can be used.
> > > 
> > > Feature availablity is already part of TM spec in rte_tm.h 
> > > struct rte_tm_capabilities:mark_vlan_dei_supported
> > > struct rte_tm_capabilities:mark_ip_ecn_[sctp|tcp]_supported
> > > struct rte_tm_capabilities:mark_ip_dscp_supported
> > 
> > Does this mean that any driver advertising this existing feature flag
> > has to support the new mbuf flags too? Shouldn't we have a specific
> > feature for it?
> 
> Yes, I thought PMD's need to support both.
> I'm fine adding specific feature flag for the offload flags alone
> if you insist or if there are other PMD's which don't need the offload flags
> for packet marking. I was not able to find out about other PMD's as
> none of the existing PMD's support packet marking.

Do you suggest that the behavior of the traffic manager marking should
be:

a- the hardware tries to recognize tx packets, and mark them
   accordingly. What packets are recognized depend on hardware.
b- if the mbuf has a specific flag, it helps the PMD and hardware to
   recognize packets, so it can mark packets.

For an application, a- is difficult to apprehend as it will be dependent
on hardware.

Or do you suggest that packets should only be marked if there is a mbuf
flag? (only b-)

Do you confirm that there is no support at all for this feature today?
I mean, what was the usage of rte_tm_mark_vlan_dei() these last 3 years?

Thanks,
Olivier


> 
> > 
> > Please also see few comments below.
> > 
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  doc/guides/nics/features.rst    | 14 ++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c      |  6 ++++++
> > > > > >  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > > > >  3 files changed, 54 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/doc/guides/nics/features.rst b/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
> > > > > > index edd21c4..bc978fb 100644
> > > > > > --- a/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
> > > > > > +++ b/doc/guides/nics/features.rst
> > > > > > @@ -913,6 +913,20 @@ Supports to get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information.
> > > > > >  * **[implements] eth_dev_ops**: ``rx_burst_mode_get``, ``tx_burst_mode_get``.
> > > > > >  * **[related] API**: ``rte_eth_rx_burst_mode_get()``, ``rte_eth_tx_burst_mode_get()``.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +.. _nic_features_traffic_manager_packet_marking_offload:
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +Traffic Manager Packet marking offload
> > > > > > +--------------------------------------
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +Supports enabling a packet marking offload specific mbuf.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +* **[uses]     mbuf**: ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP``,
> > > > > > +  ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN``, ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI``,
> > > > > > +  ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_TX_IPV4``, ``mbuf.ol_flags:PKT_TX_IPV6``.
> > > > > > +* **[uses]     mbuf**: ``mbuf.l2_len``.
> > > > > > +* **[related] API**: ``rte_tm_mark_ip_dscp()``, ``rte_tm_mark_ip_ecn()``,
> > > > > > +  ``rte_tm_mark_vlan_dei()``.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  .. _nic_features_other:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Other dev ops not represented by a Feature
> > > > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > > index cd5794d..5c6896d 100644
> > > > > > --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > > +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > > @@ -880,6 +880,9 @@ const char *rte_get_tx_ol_flag_name(uint64_t mask)
> > > > > >         case PKT_TX_SEC_OFFLOAD: return "PKT_TX_SEC_OFFLOAD";
> > > > > >         case PKT_TX_UDP_SEG: return "PKT_TX_UDP_SEG";
> > > > > >         case PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM: return "PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM";
> > > > > > +       case PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI: return "PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI";
> > > > > > +       case PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP: return "PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP";
> > > > > > +       case PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN: return "PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN";
> > > > > >         default: return NULL;
> > > > > >         }
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > > @@ -916,6 +919,9 @@ rte_get_tx_ol_flag_list(uint64_t mask, char *buf, size_t buflen)
> > > > > >                 { PKT_TX_SEC_OFFLOAD, PKT_TX_SEC_OFFLOAD, NULL },
> > > > > >                 { PKT_TX_UDP_SEG, PKT_TX_UDP_SEG, NULL },
> > > > > >                 { PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM, PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM, NULL },
> > > > > > +               { PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI, PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI, NULL },
> > > > > > +               { PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP, PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP, NULL },
> > > > > > +               { PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN, PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN, NULL },
> > > > > >         };
> > > > > >         const char *name;
> > > > > >         unsigned int i;
> > > > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > > index b9a59c8..d9f1290 100644
> > > > > > --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > > +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf_core.h
> > > > > > @@ -187,11 +187,40 @@ extern "C" {
> > > > > >  /* add new RX flags here, don't forget to update PKT_FIRST_FREE */
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  #define PKT_FIRST_FREE (1ULL << 23)
> > > > > > -#define PKT_LAST_FREE (1ULL << 40)
> > > > > > +#define PKT_LAST_FREE (1ULL << 37)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  /* add new TX flags here, don't forget to update PKT_LAST_FREE  */
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  /**
> > > > > > + * Packet marking offload flags. These flags indicated what kind
> > > > > > + * of packet marking needs to be applied on a given mbuf when
> > > > > > + * appropriate Traffic Manager configuration is in place.
> > > > > > + * When user set's these flags on a mbuf, below assumptions are made
> > > > > > + * 1) When PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI is set,
> > > > > > + * a) PMD assumes pkt to be a 802.1q packet.
> > 
> > What does that imply?
> 
> I meant by setting the flag, a packet has VLAN header adhering to IEEE 802.1Q spec.
> 
> > 
> > > > > > + * b) Application should also set mbuf.l2_len where 802.1Q header is
> > > > > > + *    at (mbuf.l2_len - 6) offset.
> > 
> > Why mbuf.l2_len - 6 ?
> L2 header when VLAN header is preset will be 
> {custom header 'X' Bytes}:{Ethernet SRC+DST (12B)}:{VLAN Header (4B)}:{Ether Type (2B)}
> l2_len = X + 12 + 4 + 2
> So, VLAN header starts at (l2_len - 6) bytes.
> 
> > 
> > > > > > + * 2) When PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP is set,
> > > > > > + * a) Application should also set either PKT_TX_IPV4 or PKT_TX_IPV6
> > > > > > + *    to indicate whether if it is IPv4 packet or IPv6 packet
> > > > > > + *    for DSCP marking. It should also set PKT_TX_IP_CKSUM if it is
> > > > > > + *    IPv4 pkt.
> > > > > > + * b) Application should also set mbuf.l2_len that indicates
> > > > > > + *    start offset of L3 header.
> > > > > > + * 3) When PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN is set,
> > > > > > + * a) Application should also set either PKT_TX_IPV4 or PKT_TX_IPV6.
> > > > > > + *    It should also set PKT_TX_IP_CKSUM if it is IPv4 pkt.
> > > > > > + * b) PMD will assume pkt L4 protocol is either TCP or SCTP and
> > > > > > + *    ECN is set to 2'b01 or 2'b10 as per RFC 3168 and hence HW
> > > > > > + *    can mark the packet for a configured color.
> > > > > > + * c) Application should also set mbuf.l2_len that indicates
> > > > > > + *    start offset of L3 header.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +#define PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI           (1ULL << 38)
> > > > > > +#define PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP            (1ULL << 39)
> > > > > > +#define PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN             (1ULL << 40)
> > 
> > We should have one comment per define.
> Ack, will fix in V2.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/**
> > > > > >   * Outer UDP checksum offload flag. This flag is used for enabling
> > > > > >   * outer UDP checksum in PMD. To use outer UDP checksum, the user needs to
> > > > > >   * 1) Enable the following in mbuf,
> > > > > > @@ -384,7 +413,10 @@ extern "C" {
> > > > > >                 PKT_TX_MACSEC |          \
> > > > > >                 PKT_TX_SEC_OFFLOAD |     \
> > > > > >                 PKT_TX_UDP_SEG |         \
> > > > > > -               PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM)
> > > > > > +               PKT_TX_OUTER_UDP_CKSUM | \
> > > > > > +               PKT_TX_MARK_VLAN_DEI |   \
> > > > > > +               PKT_TX_MARK_IP_DSCP |    \
> > > > > > +               PKT_TX_MARK_IP_ECN)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  /**
> > > > > >   * Mbuf having an external buffer attached. shinfo in mbuf must be filled.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 2.8.4
> > > > > >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-04 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-17  7:22 [dpdk-dev] " Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-04-17  7:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] net/octeontx2: add tm packet marking cb Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-04-17  7:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] net/octeontx2: add Tx packet marking offload support Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-01 11:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] mbuf: add Tx offloads for packet marking Jerin Jacob
2020-05-04  8:06   ` Olivier Matz
2020-05-04  8:27     ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-04  9:16       ` Olivier Matz
2020-05-04 10:04         ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-04 12:27           ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2020-05-05  6:19             ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-13 12:28               ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-14 20:29               ` Olivier Matz
2020-05-15 10:08                 ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-15 10:30                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-15 13:57                     ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-28 15:43                       ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-30 15:12                         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-06-02 10:53                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-02 14:25                             ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-06-03  8:28                               ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-03 10:44                                 ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-06-03 11:38                                   ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-03 12:52                                     ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-06-03 16:14                                       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-06-08  9:39                                         ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-06-03 14:56                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-06-03 10:31                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-15 13:12                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-15 13:44                     ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2020-05-15 15:10                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-15 16:26                         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-05-15 16:52                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-05-15 17:00                             ` Jerin Jacob
2020-05-15 18:07                             ` Nithin Dabilpuram
2023-07-31 12:54 ` [dpdk-dev] " Thomas Monjalon
2023-08-14  8:11   ` Nithin Dabilpuram

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