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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mbuf: fix reset on mbuf free
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 13:31:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201105123150.GP1898@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR11MB3301CA88BA4E93D5D9E6F16A9AEE0@BYAPR11MB3301.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:34:18AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:26:51AM +0300, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
> > > On 11/5/20 10:46 AM, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 12:15:49AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Olivier,
> > > >>
> > > >>> m->nb_seg must be reset on mbuf free whatever the value of m->next,
> > > >>> because it can happen that m->nb_seg is != 1. For instance in this
> > > >>> case:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   m1 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m1, 500);
> > > >>>   m2 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m2, 500);
> > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_chain(m1, m2);
> > > >>>   m0 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m0, 500);
> > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_chain(m0, m1);
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As rte_pktmbuf_chain() does not reset nb_seg in the initial m1
> > > >>> segment (this is not required), after this code the mbuf chain
> > > >>> have 3 segments:
> > > >>>   - m0: next=m1, nb_seg=3
> > > >>>   - m1: next=m2, nb_seg=2
> > > >>>   - m2: next=NULL, nb_seg=1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Freeing this mbuf chain will not restore nb_seg=1 in the second
> > > >>> segment.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hmm, not sure why is that?
> > > >> You are talking about freeing m1, right?
> > > >> rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > >> {
> > > >> 	...
> > > >> 	if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > >>                         m->next = NULL;
> > > >>                         m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>                 }
> > > >>
> > > >> m1->next != NULL, so it will enter the if() block,
> > > >> and will reset both next and nb_segs.
> > > >> What I am missing here?
> > > >> Thinking in more generic way, that change:
> > > >>  -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > >>  -			m->next = NULL;
> > > >>  -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>  -		}
> > > >>  +		m->next = NULL;
> > > >>  +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >
> > > > Ah, sorry. I oversimplified the example and now it does not
> > > > show the issue...
> > > >
> > > > The full example also adds a split() to break the mbuf chain
> > > > between m1 and m2. The kind of thing that would be done for
> > > > software TCP segmentation.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If so, may be the right solution is to care about nb_segs
> > > when next is set to NULL on split? Any place when next is set
> > > to NULL. Just to keep the optimization in a more generic place.
> 
> 
> > The problem with that approach is that there are already several
> > existing split() or trim() implementations in different DPDK-based
> > applications. For instance, we have some in 6WINDGate. If we force
> > applications to set nb_seg to 1 when resetting next, it has to be
> > documented because it is not straightforward. 
> 
> I think it is better to go that way.
> From my perspective it seems natural to reset nb_seg at same time
> we reset next, otherwise inconsistency will occur. 

While it is not explicitly stated for nb_segs, to me it was clear that
nb_segs is only valid in the first segment, like for many fields (port,
ol_flags, vlan, rss, ...).

If we say that nb_segs has to be valid in any segments, it means that
chain() or split() will have to update it in all segments, which is not
efficient.

Saying that nb_segs has to be valid for the first and last segment seems
really odd to me. What is the logic behind that except keeping this test
as is?

In any case, it has to be better documented.


Olivier


> > I think the approach from
> > this patch is safer.
> 
> It might be easier from perspective that changes in less places are required,
> Though I think that this patch will introduce some performance drop.
> As now each mbuf_prefree_seg() will cause update of 2 cache lines unconditionally.
>  
> > By the way, for 21.11, if we are able to do some optimizations and have
> > both pool (index?) and next in the first cache line, we may reconsider
> > the fact that next and nb_segs are already set for new allocated mbufs,
> > because it is not straightforward either.
> 
> My suggestion - let's put future optimization discussion aside for now,
> and concentrate on that particular patch. 
> 
> > 
> > > > After this operation, we have 2 mbuf chain:
> > > >  - m0 with 2 segments, the last one has next=NULL but nb_seg=2
> > > >  - new_m with 1 segment
> > > >
> > > > Freeing m0 will not restore nb_seg=1 in the second segment.
> > > >
> > > >> Assumes that it is ok to have an mbuf with
> > > >> nb_seg > 1 and next == NULL.
> > > >> Which seems wrong to me.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it is wrong: nb_seg is just ignored when not in the first
> > > > segment, and there is nothing saying it should be set to 1. Typically,
> > > > rte_pktmbuf_chain() does not change it, and I guess it's the same for
> > > > many similar functions in applications.
> > > >
> > > > Olivier
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> This is expected that mbufs stored in pool have their
> > > >>> nb_seg field set to 1.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Fixes: 8f094a9ac5d7 ("mbuf: set mbuf fields while in pool")
> > > >>> Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Signed-off-by: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
> > > >>> ---
> > > >>>  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c |  6 ++----
> > > >>>  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h | 12 ++++--------
> > > >>>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > >>> index 8a456e5e64..e632071c23 100644
> > > >>> --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > >>> +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > >>> @@ -129,10 +129,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_free_pinned_extmem(void *addr, void *opaque)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  	rte_mbuf_ext_refcnt_set(m->shinfo, 1);
> > > >>>  	m->ol_flags = EXT_ATTACHED_MBUF;
> > > >>> -	if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > >>> -		m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> -		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>> -	}
> > > >>> +	m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> +	m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>>  	rte_mbuf_raw_free(m);
> > > >>>  }
> > > >>>
> > > >>> diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > >>> index a1414ed7cd..ef5800c8ef 100644
> > > >>> --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > >>> +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > >>> @@ -1329,10 +1329,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > >>>  				return NULL;
> > > >>>  		}
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > >>> -			m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>> -		}
> > > >>> +		m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  		return m;
> > > >>>
> > > >>> @@ -1346,10 +1344,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > >>>  				return NULL;
> > > >>>  		}
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > >>> -			m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>> -		}
> > > >>> +		m->next = NULL;
> > > >>> +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > >>>  		rte_mbuf_refcnt_set(m, 1);
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  		return m;
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> 2.25.1
> > > >>
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-05 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 17:00 Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  0:15 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05  7:46   ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  8:26     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-05  9:10       ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05 11:34         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 12:31           ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2020-11-05 13:14             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 13:24               ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05 13:55                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 16:30                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-05 23:55                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-06  7:52                       ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06  8:20                         ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-06  8:50                           ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06 10:04                             ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-06 10:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06 11:53                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-06 12:23                                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-08 14:16                                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-08 14:19                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-10 16:26                                         ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  8:33     ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-05  9:03       ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  9:09     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-08  7:25 ` Ali Alnubani
2020-12-18 12:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Olivier Matz
2020-12-18 13:18   ` Morten Brørup
2020-12-18 23:33     ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-01-06 13:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Olivier Matz
2021-01-10  9:28   ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-11 13:14   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-13 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Olivier Matz
2021-01-15 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " David Marchand
2021-01-15 18:39     ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-18 17:52       ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-19  8:32         ` Olivier Matz
2021-01-19  8:53           ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-19 12:00             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 12:27               ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-19 14:03                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 14:21                   ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-21  9:15                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 14:04           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2021-07-24  8:47             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 12:36               ` Olivier Matz
2021-07-30 14:35                 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-30 14:54                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 15:14                     ` Olivier Matz
2021-07-30 15:23                       ` Morten Brørup
2021-08-04 13:29                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: add known issue with mbuf segment Thomas Monjalon
2021-08-04 14:25                         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-08-05  6:08                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-08-06 14:21                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-08-06 14:24                             ` Morten Brørup
2021-09-28  8:28                     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4] mbuf: fix reset on mbuf free Thomas Monjalon
2021-09-28  9:00                       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2021-09-28  9:25                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-09-28  9:39                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-09-29  8:03                           ` Ali Alnubani
2021-09-29 21:39                             ` Olivier Matz
2021-09-30 13:29                               ` Ali Alnubani
2021-10-21  8:26                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-21  9:19       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-21  9:29         ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-21 16:35           ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdklab] " Lincoln Lavoie
2021-01-23  8:57             ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-25 17:00               ` Brandon Lo
2021-01-25 18:42             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-15 13:56   ` [dpdk-dev] " Morten Brørup
2021-09-29 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Olivier Matz
2021-09-30 13:27     ` Ali Alnubani
2021-10-21  9:18     ` David Marchand
2022-07-28 14:06       ` CI performance test results might be misleading Morten Brørup

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