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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mbuf: fix reset on mbuf free
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 14:24:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201105132438.GS1898@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR11MB330148F0A343AE5E80C3D5FA9AEE0@BYAPR11MB3301.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 01:14:07PM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:34:18AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:26:51AM +0300, Andrew Rybchenko wrote:
> > > > > On 11/5/20 10:46 AM, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 12:15:49AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Olivier,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> m->nb_seg must be reset on mbuf free whatever the value of m->next,
> > > > > >>> because it can happen that m->nb_seg is != 1. For instance in this
> > > > > >>> case:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>   m1 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m1, 500);
> > > > > >>>   m2 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m2, 500);
> > > > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_chain(m1, m2);
> > > > > >>>   m0 = rte_pktmbuf_alloc(mp);
> > > > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_append(m0, 500);
> > > > > >>>   rte_pktmbuf_chain(m0, m1);
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> As rte_pktmbuf_chain() does not reset nb_seg in the initial m1
> > > > > >>> segment (this is not required), after this code the mbuf chain
> > > > > >>> have 3 segments:
> > > > > >>>   - m0: next=m1, nb_seg=3
> > > > > >>>   - m1: next=m2, nb_seg=2
> > > > > >>>   - m2: next=NULL, nb_seg=1
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Freeing this mbuf chain will not restore nb_seg=1 in the second
> > > > > >>> segment.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hmm, not sure why is that?
> > > > > >> You are talking about freeing m1, right?
> > > > > >> rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > > > >> {
> > > > > >> 	...
> > > > > >> 	if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > > > >>                         m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>                         m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>                 }
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> m1->next != NULL, so it will enter the if() block,
> > > > > >> and will reset both next and nb_segs.
> > > > > >> What I am missing here?
> > > > > >> Thinking in more generic way, that change:
> > > > > >>  -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > > > >>  -			m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>  -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>  -		}
> > > > > >>  +		m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>  +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ah, sorry. I oversimplified the example and now it does not
> > > > > > show the issue...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The full example also adds a split() to break the mbuf chain
> > > > > > between m1 and m2. The kind of thing that would be done for
> > > > > > software TCP segmentation.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, may be the right solution is to care about nb_segs
> > > > > when next is set to NULL on split? Any place when next is set
> > > > > to NULL. Just to keep the optimization in a more generic place.
> > >
> > >
> > > > The problem with that approach is that there are already several
> > > > existing split() or trim() implementations in different DPDK-based
> > > > applications. For instance, we have some in 6WINDGate. If we force
> > > > applications to set nb_seg to 1 when resetting next, it has to be
> > > > documented because it is not straightforward.
> > >
> > > I think it is better to go that way.
> > > From my perspective it seems natural to reset nb_seg at same time
> > > we reset next, otherwise inconsistency will occur.
> > 
> > While it is not explicitly stated for nb_segs, to me it was clear that
> > nb_segs is only valid in the first segment, like for many fields (port,
> > ol_flags, vlan, rss, ...).
> > 
> > If we say that nb_segs has to be valid in any segments, it means that
> > chain() or split() will have to update it in all segments, which is not
> > efficient.
> 
> Why in all?
> We can state that nb_segs on non-first segment should always equal 1.
> As I understand in that case, both split() and chain() have to update nb_segs
> only for head mbufs, rest ones will remain untouched.  

Well, anyway, I think it's strange to have a constraint on m->nb_segs for
non-first segment. We don't have that kind of constraints for other fields.


> 
> > 
> > Saying that nb_segs has to be valid for the first and last segment seems
> > really odd to me. What is the logic behind that except keeping this test
> > as is?
> > 
> > In any case, it has to be better documented.
> > 
> > 
> > Olivier
> > 
> > 
> > > > I think the approach from
> > > > this patch is safer.
> > >
> > > It might be easier from perspective that changes in less places are required,
> > > Though I think that this patch will introduce some performance drop.
> > > As now each mbuf_prefree_seg() will cause update of 2 cache lines unconditionally.
> > >
> > > > By the way, for 21.11, if we are able to do some optimizations and have
> > > > both pool (index?) and next in the first cache line, we may reconsider
> > > > the fact that next and nb_segs are already set for new allocated mbufs,
> > > > because it is not straightforward either.
> > >
> > > My suggestion - let's put future optimization discussion aside for now,
> > > and concentrate on that particular patch.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > After this operation, we have 2 mbuf chain:
> > > > > >  - m0 with 2 segments, the last one has next=NULL but nb_seg=2
> > > > > >  - new_m with 1 segment
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Freeing m0 will not restore nb_seg=1 in the second segment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Assumes that it is ok to have an mbuf with
> > > > > >> nb_seg > 1 and next == NULL.
> > > > > >> Which seems wrong to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't think it is wrong: nb_seg is just ignored when not in the first
> > > > > > segment, and there is nothing saying it should be set to 1. Typically,
> > > > > > rte_pktmbuf_chain() does not change it, and I guess it's the same for
> > > > > > many similar functions in applications.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Olivier
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> This is expected that mbufs stored in pool have their
> > > > > >>> nb_seg field set to 1.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Fixes: 8f094a9ac5d7 ("mbuf: set mbuf fields while in pool")
> > > > > >>> Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Signed-off-by: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
> > > > > >>> ---
> > > > > >>>  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c |  6 ++----
> > > > > >>>  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h | 12 ++++--------
> > > > > >>>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > >>> index 8a456e5e64..e632071c23 100644
> > > > > >>> --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > >>> +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.c
> > > > > >>> @@ -129,10 +129,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_free_pinned_extmem(void *addr, void *opaque)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  	rte_mbuf_ext_refcnt_set(m->shinfo, 1);
> > > > > >>>  	m->ol_flags = EXT_ATTACHED_MBUF;
> > > > > >>> -	if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > > > >>> -		m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> -		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>> -	}
> > > > > >>> +	m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> +	m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>>  	rte_mbuf_raw_free(m);
> > > > > >>>  }
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > > > >>> index a1414ed7cd..ef5800c8ef 100644
> > > > > >>> --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > > > >>> +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > > > > >>> @@ -1329,10 +1329,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > > > >>>  				return NULL;
> > > > > >>>  		}
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > > > >>> -			m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>> -		}
> > > > > >>> +		m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  		return m;
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> @@ -1346,10 +1344,8 @@ rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(struct rte_mbuf *m)
> > > > > >>>  				return NULL;
> > > > > >>>  		}
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -		if (m->next != NULL) {
> > > > > >>> -			m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> -			m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>> -		}
> > > > > >>> +		m->next = NULL;
> > > > > >>> +		m->nb_segs = 1;
> > > > > >>>  		rte_mbuf_refcnt_set(m, 1);
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  		return m;
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>> 2.25.1
> > > > > >>
> > > > >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-05 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-04 17:00 Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  0:15 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05  7:46   ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  8:26     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-05  9:10       ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05 11:34         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 12:31           ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05 13:14             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 13:24               ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2020-11-05 13:55                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-05 16:30                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-05 23:55                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-06  7:52                       ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06  8:20                         ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-06  8:50                           ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06 10:04                             ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-06 10:07                               ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-06 11:53                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-06 12:23                                   ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-08 14:16                                     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-08 14:19                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-11-10 16:26                                         ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  8:33     ` Morten Brørup
2020-11-05  9:03       ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05  9:09     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-08  7:25 ` Ali Alnubani
2020-12-18 12:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Olivier Matz
2020-12-18 13:18   ` Morten Brørup
2020-12-18 23:33     ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-01-06 13:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Olivier Matz
2021-01-10  9:28   ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-11 13:14   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-13 13:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Olivier Matz
2021-01-15 13:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " David Marchand
2021-01-15 18:39     ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-18 17:52       ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-19  8:32         ` Olivier Matz
2021-01-19  8:53           ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-19 12:00             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 12:27               ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-19 14:03                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 14:21                   ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-21  9:15                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-19 14:04           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2021-07-24  8:47             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 12:36               ` Olivier Matz
2021-07-30 14:35                 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-30 14:54                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-07-30 15:14                     ` Olivier Matz
2021-07-30 15:23                       ` Morten Brørup
2021-08-04 13:29                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: add known issue with mbuf segment Thomas Monjalon
2021-08-04 14:25                         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-08-05  6:08                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-08-06 14:21                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-08-06 14:24                             ` Morten Brørup
2021-09-28  8:28                     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v4] mbuf: fix reset on mbuf free Thomas Monjalon
2021-09-28  9:00                       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2021-09-28  9:25                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-09-28  9:39                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-09-29  8:03                           ` Ali Alnubani
2021-09-29 21:39                             ` Olivier Matz
2021-09-30 13:29                               ` Ali Alnubani
2021-10-21  8:26                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-21  9:19       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-21  9:29         ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-21 16:35           ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdklab] " Lincoln Lavoie
2021-01-23  8:57             ` Morten Brørup
2021-01-25 17:00               ` Brandon Lo
2021-01-25 18:42             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-06-15 13:56   ` [dpdk-dev] " Morten Brørup
2021-09-29 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Olivier Matz
2021-09-30 13:27     ` Ali Alnubani
2021-10-21  9:18     ` David Marchand
2022-07-28 14:06       ` CI performance test results might be misleading Morten Brørup

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