From: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com>
To: "Kinsella, Ray" <mdr@ashroe.eu>
Cc: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
dev@dpdk.org, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>,
Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
ferruh.yigit@intel.com, ray.kinsella@intel.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:31:03 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210125133103.04b3107d@sovereign> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c814573b-1759-138d-32e8-640769e988d0@ashroe.eu>
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:11:07 +0000, Kinsella, Ray wrote:
> On 25/01/2021 10:05, Dmitry Kozlyuk wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:25:51 +0000, Kinsella, Ray wrote:
> >> On 23/01/2021 11:38, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>> 22/01/2021 23:24, Dmitry Kozlyuk:
> >>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 21:57:15 +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>>>> 22/01/2021 21:31, Dmitry Kozlyuk:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 11:24:21 +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>>>>>> 20/01/2021 08:23, Dmitry Kozlyuk:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 01:05:59 +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> This is now the right timeframe to introduce this change
> >>>>>>>>> with the new Python module dependency.
> >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the ABI check is returning an issue:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 'const char mlx5_common_pci_pmd_info[62]' was changed
> >>>>>>>>> to 'const char mlx5_common_pci_pmd_info[60]' at rte_common_mlx5.pmd.c
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Will investigate and fix ASAP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now that I think of it: strings like this change every time new PCI IDs are
> >>>>>> added to a PMD, but AFAIK adding PCI IDs is not considered an ABI breakage,
> >>>>>> is it? One example is 28c9a7d7b48e ("net/mlx5: add ConnectX-6 Lx device ID")
> >>>>>> added 2020-07-08, i.e. clearly outside of ABI change window.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "xxx_pmd_info" changes are due to JSON formatting (new is more canonical),
> >>>>>> which can be worked around easily, if the above is wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If the new format is better, please keep it.
> >>>>> What we need is an exception for the pmdinfo symbols
> >>>>> in the file devtools/libabigail.abignore.
> >>>>> You can probably use a regex for these symbols.
> >>>>
> >>>> This would allow real breakages to pass ABI check, abidiff doesn't analyze
> >>>> variable content and it's not easy to compare. Maybe later a script can be
> >>>> added that checks lines with RTE_DEVICE_IN in patches. There are at most 32 of
> >>>> 5494 relevant commits between 19.11 and 20.11, though.
> >>>>
> >>>> To verify there are no meaningful changes I ensured empty diff between
> >>>> results of the following command for "main" and the branch:
> >>>>
> >>>> find build/drivers -name '*.so' -exec usertools/dpdk-pmdinfo.py
> >>>
> >>> For now we cannot do such check as part of the ABI checker.
> >>> And we cannot merge this patch if the ABI check fails.
> >>> I think the only solution is to allow any change in the pmdinfo variables.
> >>>
> >>
> >> So my 2c on this is that this is an acceptable work-around for the v21 (DPDK v20.11) ABI.
> >> However we are going to end up carrying this rule in libabigail.ignore indefinitely.
> >>
> >> Would it make sense to just fix the size of _pmd_info to some reasonably large value -
> >> say 128 bytes, to allow us to drop the rule in the DPDK 21.11 v22 release?
> >
> > I don't think so. This is a JSON *string to be parsed;* considering its size
> > as part of application *binary* interface is wrong in the first place.
>
> Right - then is belongs in INTERNAL, I would say.
>
> > As for
> > content, checking that no PCI IDs are removed is out of scope for libabigail
> > anyway.
>
> Lets be clear PCI IDs - are _nothing_ to do with ABI.
Technically, yes, but they're referred to in abi_policy.rst, because DPDK
behavior depends on them. Same issue as with as return values: no formats
change, yet compatibility is broken.
> > Technically we could fix _pmd_info size, but this still allows
> > breaking changes to pass the check with no benefit.
>
> ABI changes or other, please explain?
Behavioral changes via PCI ID removal, see above.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-25 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-22 0:45 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/2] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-06-22 0:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/2] pmdinfogen: prototype " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-06-22 0:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/2] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-06-22 12:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/2] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Neil Horman
2020-06-22 19:39 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-06-23 11:28 ` Neil Horman
2020-06-23 11:59 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-02 0:07 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] pmdinfogen: prototype " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] doc/linux_gsg: require pyelftools for pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-06 12:52 ` Neil Horman
2020-07-06 13:24 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-06 16:46 ` Neil Horman
2020-07-08 0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] doc/linux_gsg: require pyelftools for pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 21:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 21:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 21:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-21 14:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-21 14:59 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-08 21:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] doc/linux_gsg: require pyelftools for pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-21 13:39 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-21 14:05 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-21 14:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-08 21:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-07-09 10:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Neil Horman
2020-07-21 13:51 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-09-27 21:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-09-27 21:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-09-27 22:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-09-27 21:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-09-27 21:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-09-27 23:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-09-28 9:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python David Marchand
2020-10-04 1:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-04 1:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-04 1:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-04 1:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-14 14:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Maxime Coquelin
2020-10-14 15:40 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-14 18:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-14 18:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-14 18:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-14 18:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-20 16:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python David Marchand
2020-10-20 17:45 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-20 22:09 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-20 17:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-20 17:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-20 17:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-21 9:00 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-20 0:05 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-20 7:23 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-20 10:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-22 20:31 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-22 20:57 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-22 22:24 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-23 11:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-24 20:52 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-25 9:25 ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-01-25 10:01 ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-01-25 10:29 ` David Marchand
2021-01-25 10:46 ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-01-25 11:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-25 10:05 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-25 10:11 ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-01-25 10:31 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk [this message]
2020-10-20 17:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2020-10-26 16:46 ` Jie Zhou
2021-01-22 22:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-22 22:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-22 22:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-22 22:43 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-24 20:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-24 20:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/3] pmdinfogen: add Python implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-24 20:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/3] build: use Python pmdinfogen Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-25 10:12 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-24 20:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/3] pmdinfogen: remove C implementation Dmitry Kozlyuk
2021-01-25 13:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/3] pmdinfogen: rewrite in Python Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-25 16:08 ` Brandon Lo
2021-02-02 8:48 ` Tal Shnaiderman
2021-01-25 18:51 ` Ali Alnubani
2021-01-25 22:15 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
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