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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
Cc: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>, Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] app/test: remove unnecessary barriers for ring stress test
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:58:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210128205847.509412db@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB5814B48DC0B5B7B1AC2D0ED598B99@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 03:17:50 +0000
Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:

> <snip>
> 
> >   
> > > >
> > > > Hi Feifei,
> > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > > The variable "wrk_cmd" is a signal to control threads from running
> > > > > and stopping. When worker lcores load "wrk_cmd ==  
> > WRK_CMD_RUN",  
> > > > > they  
> > > > start  
> > > > > running and when worker lcores load "wrk_cmd == WRK_CMD_STOP",  
> > > > they  
> > > > > stop.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the wmb in test_mt1, no storing operations must keep the order
> > > > > after storing "wrk_cmd". Thus the wmb is unnecessary.  
> > > >
> > > > I think there is a bug in my original code, we should do smp_wmb()
> > > > *before* setting wrk_cmd, not after:
> > > >
> > > >         /* launch on all workers */
> > > >         RTE_LCORE_FOREACH_WORKER(lc) {
> > > >                 arg[lc].rng = r;
> > > >                 arg[lc].stats = init_stat;
> > > >                 rte_eal_remote_launch(test, &arg[lc], lc);
> > > >         }
> > > >
> > > >         /* signal worker to start test */
> > > > +      rte_smp_wmb();
> > > >         wrk_cmd = WRK_CMD_RUN;
> > > > -       rte_smp_wmb();
> > > >
> > > >         usleep(run_time * US_PER_S);
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still think we'd better have some synchronisation here.
> > > > Otherwise what would prevent compiler and/or cpu to update wrk_cmd
> > > > out of order (before _init_ phase is completed)?
> > > > We probably can safely assume no reordering from the compiler here,
> > > > as we have function calls straight before and after 'wrk_cmd =  
> > WRK_CMD_RUN;'  
> > > > But for consistency and easier maintenance, I still think it is
> > > > better to have something here, after all it is not performance critical pass.  
> > > Agree that this is not performance critical.
> > >
> > > This is more about correctness (as usually people refer to code to
> > > understand the concepts). You can refer to video [1]. Essentially, the
> > > pthread_create has 'happens-before' behavior. i.e. all the memory
> > > operations before the pthread_create are visible to the new thread.
> > > The
> > > rte_smp_rmb() barrier in the thread function is not required as it reads the  
> > data that was set before the thread was launched.
> > 
> > rte_eal_remote_launch() doesn't call pthread_create().
> > All it does -  updates global variable (lcore_config) and writes/reads to/from
> > the pipe.
> >   
> Thanks for the reminder ☹
> I think rte_eal_remote_launch and rte_eal_wait_lcore need to provide behavior similar to pthread_launch and pthread_join respectively.
> 
> There is use of rte_smp_*mb in those functions as well. Those need to be fixed first and then look at these.

Looks like you want __atomic_thread_fence() here.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-29  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-22  6:30 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/2] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2020-12-22  6:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] app/test: remove unnecessary barriers for ring stress test Feifei Wang
2020-12-22 12:42   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-27 23:00     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-01-28 14:43       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-29  3:17         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-01-29  4:58           ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2021-01-30  1:24             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-02-01  8:37               ` [dpdk-dev] 回复: " Feifei Wang
2021-02-01 13:50                 ` [dpdk-dev] " Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-02-03 16:24                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-02-01  8:48               ` [dpdk-dev] 回复: " Feifei Wang
2021-02-01  9:07                 ` Feifei Wang
2020-12-22  6:30 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/2] app/test: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/1] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/1] test/trace: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/1] remove smp barriers in app/test Feifei Wang
2021-03-10  2:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/1] test/trace: collect perf data after worker threads exit Feifei Wang
2021-04-14 14:14     ` David Marchand

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