From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Tudor Cornea <tudor.cornea@gmail.com>
Cc: ferruh.yigit@intel.com, thomas@monjalon.net, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/kni: retry the xmit in case ring is full
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 08:24:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211217082439.13d36631@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1639753232-115930-1-git-send-email-tudor.cornea@gmail.com>
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:00:32 +0200
Tudor Cornea <tudor.cornea@gmail.com> wrote:
> This patch attempts to avoid dropping packets that are to be
> transmitted, in case there is no space in the KNI ring.
>
> We have a use case in which we leverage the Linux TCP / IP stack for
> control plane, and some protocols might be sensitive to packet drops.
>
> This might mean that the sender (Kernel) might be moving at a faster pace
> than the receiver end (DPDK application), or it might have some brief
> moments of bursty traffic patterns.
>
> Requeuing the packets could add a kind of backpressure until a transmit
> window is available to us.
>
> The burden of retransmitting is shifted to the caller of ndo_start_xmit,
> which in our case is the configured queuing discipline. This way, the
> user should be able to influence the behavior w.r.t dropping packets,
> by picking the desired queuing discipline.
>
> Although it should technically be a good approach, from what
> I have tested, stopping the queue prior to returning NETDEV_TX_BUSY seems
> to add some extra overhead, and degrade the control-plane performance
> a bit.
>
> Signed-off-by: Tudor Cornea <tudor.cornea@gmail.com>
NAK
Doing this risks having a CPU lockup if userspace does not keep up
or the DPDK application gets stuck.
There are better ways to solve the TCP stack queue overrun issue:
1. Use a better queueing discipline on the kni device. The Linux default
of pfifo_fast has bufferbloat issues. Use fq_codel, fq, codel or pie?
2. KNI should implement BQL so that TCP stack can see lock backpressure
about possible queue depth.
As a simple workaround increase the KNI ring size. It won't solve the whole
problem but i tcan help
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-17 16:24 UTC|newest]
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2021-12-17 15:00 Tudor Cornea
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2022-01-17 15:29 ` Tudor Cornea
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