From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, "Heng Wang" <heng.wang@ericsson.com>,
"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
techboard@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:52:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240430165251.GA7283@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e469926-0c09-42a4-aa8f-8cde0578690b@lysator.liu.se>
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:39:17AM +0200, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
[ ... ]
> >
> >>
> >>The only reason for _Atomic being as it is, as far as I can see, is to
> >>accommodate for ISAs which does not have the appropriate atomic machine
> >>instructions, and thus require a lock or some other data associated with
> >>the actual user-data-carrying bits. Neither GCC nor DPDK supports any
> >>such ISAs, to my knowledge. I suspect neither never will. So the cast
> >>will continue to work.
> >
> >I tend to agree with you on this.
> >
> >We should officially decide that DPDK treats RTE_ATOMIC types as a union of _Atomic and non-atomic, i.e. operations on RTE_ATOMIC types can be both atomic and non-atomic.
> >
>
> I think this is a subject which needs to be further explored.
>
> Objects that can be accessed both atomically and non-atomically
> should be without _Atomic. With my current understanding of this
> issue, that seems like the best option.
i've been distracted by other work and while not in the scope of this
series i want to say +1 to having this discussion. utilizing a union for
this atomic vs non-atomic access that appears in practice is a good idea.
>
> You could turn it around as well, and have such marked _Atomic and
> have explicit casts to their non-_Atomic cousins when operated upon
> by non-atomic functions. Not sure how realistic that is, since
> non-atomicity is the norm. All generic selection-based "functions"
> must take this into account.
the problem with casts is they are actually different types and may have
different size and/or alignment relative to their non-atomic types.
for current non-locking atomics the implementations happen to be the
same (presumably because it was practical) but the union is definitely a
cleaner approach.
>
> >>
> >>>>+ unsigned int nr, int memory_order) \
> >>>>+ { \
> >>>>+ RTE_ASSERT(nr < size); \
> >>>>+ \
> >>>>+ const RTE_ATOMIC(uint ## size ## _t) *a_addr = \
> >>>>+ (const RTE_ATOMIC(uint ## size ## _t) *)addr; \
> >>>>+ uint ## size ## _t mask = (uint ## size ## _t)1 << nr; \
> >>>>+ return rte_atomic_load_explicit(a_addr, memory_order) &
> >>mask; \
> >>>>+ }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Similar considerations regarding volatile qualifier for the "once"
> >>operations.
> >>>
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2024-03-02 17:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:26 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:34 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:01 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:06 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 11:12 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 1/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 11:16 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:24 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 16:43 ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-10 0:50 ` fengchengwen
2024-09-10 5:10 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] dpdk: do not force C linkage on include file dependencies Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-16 12:05 ` David Marchand
2024-09-17 9:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 11:15 ` David Marchand
2024-09-18 12:09 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-18 12:46 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-09-16 12:13 ` David Marchand
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 8:31 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-10 6:20 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] eal: extend bit manipulation functionality Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:25 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:25 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:26 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:49 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 13:26 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-20 17:05 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Improve EAL bit operations API Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-05 8:10 ` David Marchand
2024-09-09 12:04 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-09 12:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-09-09 12:25 ` David Marchand
2024-09-09 13:09 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-12 11:19 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:00 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] eal: extend bitops to handle volatile pointers Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 11:48 ` Morten Brørup
2024-08-12 11:22 ` Jack Bond-Preston
2024-08-12 12:28 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 15:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-08-09 15:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 16:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-08-09 16:57 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] eal: add atomic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-08-09 9:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
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2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-07 19:17 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 6:47 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 7:33 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 8:00 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 8:11 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 9:27 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-08 10:08 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-08 15:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-08 16:16 ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-05 8:37 ` [RFC v7 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 6:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-03 23:30 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-05-04 15:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-02 5:57 ` [RFC v6 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 12:08 ` [RFC v5 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 10:37 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 11:58 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-30 9:55 ` [RFC v4 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 9:51 ` [RFC v3 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 2/6] eal: add unit tests for bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 3/6] eal: add exactly-once bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 4/6] eal: add unit tests for " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 5/6] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 10:25 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-25 14:36 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 16:18 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-26 9:39 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 12:00 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-28 15:37 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-29 7:24 ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-30 16:52 ` Tyler Retzlaff [this message]
2024-04-25 8:58 ` [RFC v2 6/6] eal: add unit tests for atomic bit access functions Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-25 18:05 ` [RFC v2 0/6] Improve EAL bit operations API Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-26 11:17 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-26 21:35 ` Patrick Robb
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 2/7] eal: add generic bit manipulation macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 8:16 ` Heng Wang
2024-03-04 15:41 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-04 16:42 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 18:08 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 18:22 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-05 20:02 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 20:53 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 3/7] eal: add bit manipulation functions which read or write once Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 4/7] eal: add generic once-type bit operations macros Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 5/7] eal: add atomic bit operations Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 6/7] eal: add generic " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 13:53 ` [RFC 7/7] eal: deprecate relaxed family of " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-02 17:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-03 6:30 ` Mattias Rönnblom
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