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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Kyo Liu <kyo.liu@nebula-matrix.com>
Cc: alvin.wang@nebula-matrix.com, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bus/pci: introduce get_iova_mode for pci dev
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:12:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250520101213.588fd16d@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250424123409.1741-1-kyo.liu@nebula-matrix.com>

On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 12:34:09 +0000
Kyo Liu <kyo.liu@nebula-matrix.com> wrote:

> I propose this patch for DPDK to enable coexistence between
> DPDK and kernel drivers for regular NICs.This solution requires
> adding a new pci_ops in rte_pci_driver, through which DPDK will
> retrieve the required IOVA mode from the vendor driver.
> This mechanism is necessary to handle different IOMMU
> configurations and operating modes. Below is a detailed
> analysis of various scenarios:
> 
> 1. When IOMMU is enabled:
> 1.1 With PT (Pass-Through) enabled:
> In this case, the domain type is IOMMU_DOMAIN_IDENTITY,
> which prevents vendor drivers from setting IOVA->PA mapping tables.
> Therefore, DPDK must use PA mode. To achieve this:
> The vendor kernel driver will register a character device (cdev) to
> communicate with DPDK. This cdev handles device operations
> (open, mmap, etc.) and ultimately
> programs the hardware registers.
> 
> 1.2 With PT disabled:
> Here, the vendor driver doesn't enforce specific IOVA mode requirements.
> Our implementation will:
> Integrate a mediated device (mdev) in the vendor driver.
> This mdev interacts with DPDK and manages IOVA->PA mapping configurations.
> 
> 2. When IOMMU is disabled:
> The vendor driver mandates PA mode (consistent with DPDK's PA mode
> requirement in this scenario).
> A character device (cdev) will similarly be registered for DPDK
> communication.
> 
> Summary:
> The solution leverages multiple technologies:
> mdev for IOVA management when IOMMU is partially enabled.
> VFIO for device passthrough operations.
> cdev for register programming coordination.
> A new pci_ops interface in DPDK to dynamically determine IOVA modes.
> This architecture enables clean coexistence by establishing standardized
> communication channels between DPDK and vendor drivers across different
> IOMMU configurations.
> 
> Motivation for the Patch:
> This patch is introduced to prepare for the upcoming open-source
> contribution of our NebulaMatrix SNIC driver to DPDK. We aim to
> ensure that our SNIC can seamlessly coexist with kernel drivers
> using this mechanism. By adopting the proposed
> architecture—leveraging dynamic IOVA mode negotiation via pci_ops,
> mediated devices (mdev), and character device (cdev)
> interactions—we enable our SNIC to operate in hybrid environments
> here both DPDK and kernel drivers may manage the same hardware.
> This design aligns with DPDK’s scalability goals and ensures
> compatibility across diverse IOMMU configurations, which is critical
> for real-world deployment scenarios.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kyo Liu <kyo.liu@nebula-matrix.com>

Please put this in the set of patches when you contribute the driver.
We like to review the full driver, not just one change like this.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24 12:34 Kyo Liu
2025-05-20 17:12 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2025-04-25  8:22 Kyo Liu

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