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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, "Wathsala Vithanage" <wathsala.vithanage@arm.com>,
	"Yipeng Wang" <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>,
	"Sameh Gobriel" <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Vladimir Medvedkin" <vladimir.medvedkin@intel.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] hash: reduce architecture special cases
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:22:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250826072210.79659b3b@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9FE73@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 16:13:29 +0200
Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:

> > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2025 15.42
> > 
> > On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:55:23 +0200
> > Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > > +static int
> > > > +rte_hash_k64_cmp_eq(const void *key1, const void *key2, size_t  
> > key_len)  
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return rte_hash_k32_cmp_eq(key1, key2, key_len) |  
> > >
> > > Is the "|" instead of "||", to compare in blocks of 64 bytes instead  
> > of 32, intentional?
> > 
> > The cost of the conditional branch is usually higher than the cost of
> > doing
> > a few more instructions on cached data.  
> 
> I agree the key being looked up is very likely cached.
> 
> But the key in the hash table might not be, and the 64 byte comparison might cross a cache line.
> I think using half a cache line as the breakpoint (for using conditional branch instead of unconditional load and compare) seems like a better tradeoff than a full cache line. I have no data to back this up, just a hunch.
> In reality, it depends on the use case. If a cache hit is more likely than a cache miss, then the unconditional comparison is preferable.
> No strong opinion. I mainly wanted to ensure this was intentional.
> 
> 
> While looking into this, I noticed a few instances where your assumption about key1 being aligned is wrong, and the key1/key2 parameters should be swapped:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.07/source/lib/hash/rte_cuckoo_hash.c#L763
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.07/source/lib/hash/rte_cuckoo_hash.c#L1319
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.07/source/lib/hash/rte_cuckoo_hash.c#L1357
> E.g. when calling rte_hash_add_key_with_hash(), the key parameter can be unaligned, and it ripples down and becomes key1:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.07/source/lib/hash/rte_cuckoo_hash.c#L1259

Ok, lets make 32 byte the watershed as comprimise.
Good catch, best to mark all keys as unaligned, but it won't matter on x86 or Arm64

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-26 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-21 20:35 [RFC 0/3] hash: optimize compare logic Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-21 20:35 ` [RFC 1/3] hash: move table of hash compare functions out of header Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22  9:05   ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 16:50     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-21 20:35 ` [RFC 2/3] hash: reduce architecture special cases Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22  9:20   ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 20:35 ` [RFC 3/3] hash: add support for common small key sizes Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22  7:19   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2025-08-22  9:50     ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 15:05       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2025-08-22 18:57         ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-25  6:05           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2025-08-22 16:12     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22 18:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Cuckoo hash cleanup and optimizations Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22 18:19   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] hash: move table of hash compare functions out of header Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22 18:19   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hash: use static_assert Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-26  6:58     ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 18:19   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] hash: reduce architecture special cases Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-26  6:55     ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-26 13:41       ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-26 14:13         ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-26 14:22           ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2025-08-26 14:36     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2025-08-26 16:25       ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-22 18:19   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] hash: add support for common small key sizes Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-26  6:58     ` Morten Brørup

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