From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124]) by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845346DD9; Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mails.dpdk.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922D24029E; Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f48.google.com (mail-wm1-f48.google.com [209.85.128.48]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D7540292 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f48.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-45a1b00f23eso41614665e9.0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:12:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1756311135; x=1756915935; darn=dpdk.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=sPIcIy0viyK7HYW7/WyCPNUuJvtZ3h8ajoNGBviI40E=; b=gQO4hKrkKxPAbQNhVZdDvgjHHcuQ4+w+S4oV4F3vcjZSPe8uFYKBl1NOjDQXwE1uLa iZRFJEx1TtcW7LsHsuYaAVcSJyKM8s3kJXyLZi9jO/n9SlSYmHcTp8WxhRx2+UlJvgPE 6eWMWOC6mNcNebLkHztNZe+cS6fo4DcdF5mNYOX1F+4HQ1F5ZHqBdotNkO3wfKWmmluQ 4Oez2fuTQIjG5KlskhPbvcGLspxduZRkL56Hhj1APaqJa31aT+qsm7Vr/OY7/OotsBx+ oql6AWTDb0IxNLAHdUF5+r2+/FfB5ueZX4hqgPi2oPTOrDQX2ix2M6UvVSc27vhJBeB3 nHVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1756311135; x=1756915935; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sPIcIy0viyK7HYW7/WyCPNUuJvtZ3h8ajoNGBviI40E=; b=ZtRCaA+RzzxA9WSf2R/t8NsMtiQYxbvyI2Q5b1l86p+VwcpiSGHq2zcD2VTUOdUzap KkZ/rA3rnfoemH3fZKP6fbgi8uZnUJITK98kOLhJ/YD9ZS8YCwgBggd67BrTaEUUC4Ix dIZTYH/q1X+PCBqNBnaC2tuiAB6p39vRVCcXOHAGgQ1qLiOSqtJ+1hELGMI9eYOGvJtq 9rBQWg1VOCEx82YBbZHx7objW3daoCh7y9TTV3htpdWyTllnxnOuFZdi6icPze2xmNXX l6K2+LFcQWeOd2c4MjpH2R1Oi8XrzYoA5uyPnLwgQjgGzr1T/TQPr2GxIBnS2NckNTRf sRTQ== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWQoaFYfDywAuOrkWeidMJ9KnelGw1ukobgK6yPKBhkaHHPutKOC9k9P+F41wA27cMAw9I=@dpdk.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwdWpdzquQwfEbYPEFDCbmyaB8lP+7qYGw7GaCYaRz108YPE/8G PPjXl8dtffOns8szt0IU/cH0/0hBks4fKaZSx8K12V6R7jnEs5h9jCMFIMNTd5gcLEs= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctnd4Y/ez4T9GPw+I17sMbX5DLuQkB6Zq392nMmVy20DJkByjSZpMU3S9twLu+ 9x8TCblvjtznpFMp+GT15cgdJtUPqOowjYJepm8sS+wWdevL43zEaMsbtl12iFmSZ+trPkq2Zcp gSC9+M9DoCN4G2nSY5RP1XRWvfag6kwOMRsw3d5NvBTY/TGyKMqyetx5laz96eGerkZzrB2WjQP itMVh4KIeUbRZ+E6ZTjvhuNZcZa+OdbMo13bUMhYbUIMiUhL+8fK4V5I1gXHDDR7JxXkUWpM1rn tlhaRaYztAI06L69ZfpPi7IhbA/fjV1dhgu1VTgjccVZa5Xa8TX6u9WjmR3oiGPatK466T2qXK8 6jQ1JDOhmqqLachcpFCvjIsHvhLr2zSLl8dZnWJsrO3OolbG66AQppomazOfjDw7Fi33RBjYVQl 4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH8+7H6gSHUAOu4Wx7/AVqqpsMiE/S+x+LtKkOeAeT40D7guIJD8VQpFuXNdQNDcyMhkfl2Eg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:c48f:b0:459:dfa8:b854 with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-45b5fbee605mr101244655e9.5.1756311134965; Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-96-226.wavecable.com. [204.195.96.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-45b6f0d61bfsm39135875e9.6.2025.08.27.09.12.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:12:10 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Bruce Richardson Cc: Morten =?UTF-8?B?QnLDuHJ1cA==?= , "Burakov, Anatoly" , , Tyler Retzlaff , Thomas Monjalon Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/9] introduce common FOREACH_SAFE macros Message-ID: <20250827091210.3c024a85@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: References: <20250127180842.97907-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <20250312231715.222149-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <20250818093416.057aad97@hermes.local> <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9FE53@smartserver.smartshare.dk> <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9FE79@smartserver.smartshare.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:12 +0100 Bruce Richardson wrote: > > This library (header file) is generic, and has zero interaction with the hardware and OS, so it's not an environment abstraction. > > The EAL has become a dump for "everything else" that isn't an individual library with its own subdirectory of the /lib directory. > > IMO, it would be nice if we could separate generic utility libraries from the EAL. > > > We could start fairly easily by extracting out generic utility headers, no? Vendoring OS headers is a bad, bad idea.