From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, 'Jerin Jacob' <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Service lcores and Application lcores
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:29:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2363216.DczB0HHKeo@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E923DB57A917B54B9182A2E928D00FA640C343DB@IRSMSX102.ger.corp.intel.com>
30/06/2017 10:52, Van Haaren, Harry:
> From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > 29/06/2017 18:35, Van Haaren, Harry:
> > > 3) The problem;
> > > If a service core runs the SW PMD schedule() function (option 2) *AND*
> > > the application lcore runs schedule() func (option 1), the result is that
> > > two threads are concurrently running a multi-thread unsafe function.
> >
> > Which function is multi-thread unsafe?
>
> With the current design, the service-callback does not have to be multi-thread safe.
> For example, the eventdev SW PMD is not multi-thread safe.
>
> The service library handles serializing access to the service-callback if multiple cores
> are mapped to that service. This keeps the atomic complexity in one place, and keeps
> services as light-weight to implement as possible.
>
> (We could consider forcing all service-callbacks to be multi-thread safe by using atomics,
> but we would not be able to optimize away the atomic cmpset if it is not required. This
> feels heavy handed, and would cause useless atomic ops to execute.)
OK thank you for the detailed explanation.
> > Why the same function would be run by the service and by the scheduler?
>
> The same function can be run concurrently by the application, and a service core.
> The root cause that this could happen is that an application can *think* it is the
> only one running threads, but in reality one or more service-cores may be running
> in the background.
>
> The service lcores and application lcores existence without knowledge of the others
> behavior is the cause of concurrent running of the multi-thread unsafe service function.
That's the part I still don't understand.
Why an application would run a function on its own core if it is already
run as a service? Can we just have a check that the service API exists
and that the service is running?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-30 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-29 14:36 Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-29 15:16 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29 16:35 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-29 20:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 8:52 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 9:29 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-06-30 10:18 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 10:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-30 11:14 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 13:04 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-30 13:16 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-29 15:57 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-30 4:45 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-30 10:00 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 12:51 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-30 13:08 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 13:20 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-06-30 13:24 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2017-06-30 13:51 ` Thomas Monjalon
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