From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Jia He <hejianet@gmail.com>, "Zhao, Bing" <ilovethull@163.com>,
"Jerin Jacob" <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"jia.he@hxt-semitech.com" <jia.he@hxt-semitech.com>,
"jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com" <jie2.liu@hxt-semitech.com>,
"bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com" <bing.zhao@hxt-semitech.com>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ring: guarantee ordering of cons/prod loading when doing enqueue/dequeue
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:03:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772585FAAB886@IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e580cd7-2854-d855-be9c-7c4ce06e3ed5@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 2017/10/19 18:02, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> >>>> Hi Jia,
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/13/2017 9:02 AM, Jia He Wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Jerin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/13/2017 1:23 AM, Jerin Jacob Wrote:
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:05:50 +0000
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> On the same lines,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jia He, jie2.liu, bing.zhao,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is this patch based on code review or do you saw this issue on any of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> arm/ppc target? arm64 will have performance impact with this change.
> >>>>> sorry, miss one important information
> >>>>> Our platform is an aarch64 server with 46 cpus.
> >>>>> If we reduced the involved cpu numbers, the bug occurred less frequently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, mb barrier impact the performance, but correctness is more
> >>>>> important, isn't it ;-)
> >>>>> Maybe we can find any other lightweight barrier here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Jia
> >>>>>> Based on mbuf_autotest, the rte_panic will be invoked in seconds.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PANIC in test_refcnt_iter():
> >>>>>> (lcore=0, iter=0): after 10s only 61 of 64 mbufs left free
> >>>>>> 1: [./test(rte_dump_stack+0x38) [0x58d868]]
> >>>>>> Aborted (core dumped)
> >>>>>>
> >>>> So is it only reproducible with mbuf refcnt test?
> >>>> Could it be reproduced with some 'pure' ring test
> >>>> (no mempools/mbufs refcnt, etc.)?
> >>>> The reason I am asking - in that test we also have mbuf refcnt updates
> >>>> (that's what for that test was created) and we are doing some optimizations here too
> >>>> to avoid excessive atomic updates.
> >>>> BTW, if the problem is not reproducible without mbuf refcnt,
> >>>> can I suggest to extend the test with:
> >>>> - add a check that enqueue() operation was successful
> >>>> - walk through the pool and check/printf refcnt of each mbuf.
> >>>> Hopefully that would give us some extra information what is going wrong here.
> >>>> Konstantin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Currently, the issue is only found in this case here on the ARM
> >>> platform, not sure how it is going with the X86_64 platform
> >> I understand that it is only reproducible on arm so far.
> >> What I am asking - with dpdk is there any other way to reproduce it (on arm)
> >> except then running mbuf_autotest?
> >> Something really simple that not using mbuf/mempool etc?
> >> Just do dequeue/enqueue from multiple threads and check data integrity at the end?
> >> If not - what makes you think that the problem is precisely in rte_ring code?
> >> Why not in rte_mbuf let say?
> > Actually I reread your original mail and finally get your point.
> > If I understand you correctly the problem with read reordering here is that
> > after we read prot.tail but before we read cons.head
> > both cons.head and prod.tail might be updated,
> > but for us prod.tail change might be unnoticed.
> > As an example:
> > time 0 (cons.head == 0, prod.tail == 0):
> > prod_tail = r->prod.tail; /* due read reordering */
> > /* prod_tail == 0 */
> >
> > time 1 (cons.head ==5, prod.tail == 5):
> > *old_head = r->cons.head;
> > /* cons.head == 5 */
> > *entries = (prod_tail - *old_head);
> > /* *entries == (0 - 5) == 0xFFFFFFFB */
> >
> > And we will move our cons.head forward, even though there are no filled entries in the ring.
> > Is that right?
> Yes
Ok, thanks for your patience - it took me a while to understand what
you guys are talking about here.
> > As I side notice, I wonder why we have here:
> > *entries = (prod_tail - *old_head);
> > instead of:
> > *entries = r->size + prod_tail - *old_head;
> > ?
> Yes, I agree with you at this code line.
> But reordering will still mess up things even after this change(I have
> tested, still the same as before)
Yes, I am convinced now that rmb is necessary here :)
As I said this is just a different thing I noticed while looking at the code.
Probably should discuss it in a different thread.
Konstantin
> I thought the *entries is a door to prevent consumer from moving forward
> too fast than the producer.
> But in some cases, it is correct that prod_tail is smaller than
> *old_head due to the cirular queue.
> In other cases, it is incorrect because of read/read reordering.
>
> AFAICT, the root cause here is the producer tail and cosumer head are
> dependant on each other.
> Thus a memory barrier is neccessary.
>
> Cheers,
> Jia
>
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> >>> . In another
> >>> mail of this thread, we've made a simple test based on this and captured
> >>> some information and I pasted there.(I pasted the patch there :-))
> >> Are you talking about that one:
> >> http://dpdk.org/dev/patchwork/patch/30405/
> >> ?
> >> It still uses test/test/test_mbuf.c...,
> >> but anyway I don't really understand how mbuf_autotest supposed
> >> to work with these changes:
> >> @@ -730,7 +739,7 @@ test_refcnt_iter(unsigned int lcore, unsigned int iter,
> >> rte_ring_enqueue(refcnt_mbuf_ring, m);
> >> }
> >> }
> >> - rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> >> + // rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> >> }
> >> @@ -741,6 +750,12 @@ test_refcnt_iter(unsigned int lcore, unsigned int iter,
> >> while (!rte_ring_empty(refcnt_mbuf_ring))
> >> ;
> >>
> >> + if (NULL != m) {
> >> + if (1 != rte_mbuf_refcnt_read(m))
> >> + printf("m ref is %u\n", rte_mbuf_refcnt_read(m));
> >> + rte_pktmbuf_free(m);
> >> + }
> >> +
> >> /* check that all mbufs are back into mempool by now */
> >> for (wn = 0; wn != REFCNT_MAX_TIMEOUT; wn++) {
> >> if ((i = rte_mempool_avail_count(refcnt_pool)) == n) {
> >>
> >> That means all your mbufs (except the last one) will still be allocated.
> >> So the test would fail - as it should, I think.
> >>
> >>> And
> >>> it seems that Juhamatti & Jacod found some reverting action several
> >>> months ago.
> >> Didn't get that one either.
> >> Konstantin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-20 7:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-10 9:56 Jia He
2017-10-12 15:53 ` Olivier MATZ
2017-10-12 16:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-10-12 17:05 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-12 17:23 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-13 1:02 ` Jia He
2017-10-13 1:15 ` Jia He
2017-10-13 1:16 ` Jia He
2017-10-13 1:49 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-13 3:23 ` Jia He
2017-10-13 5:57 ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-13 7:33 ` Jianbo Liu
2017-10-13 8:20 ` Jia He
2017-10-19 10:02 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-19 11:18 ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-19 14:15 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-19 20:02 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-20 1:57 ` Jia He
2017-10-20 5:43 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-23 8:49 ` Jia He
2017-10-23 9:05 ` Kuusisaari, Juhamatti
2017-10-23 9:10 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-10-23 10:06 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-24 2:04 ` Jia He
2017-10-25 13:26 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-26 2:27 ` Jia He
2017-10-31 2:55 ` Jia He
2017-10-31 11:14 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-01 2:53 ` Jia He
2017-11-01 19:04 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-02 1:09 ` Jia He
2017-11-02 8:57 ` Jia He
2017-11-03 2:55 ` Jia He
2017-11-03 12:47 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-11-01 4:48 ` Jia He
2017-11-01 19:10 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-20 7:03 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2017-10-13 0:24 ` Liu, Jie2
2017-10-13 2:12 ` Zhao, Bing
2017-10-13 2:34 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-10-16 10:51 ` Kuusisaari, Juhamatti
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