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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Ivan Malov <ivan.malov@arknetworks.am>,
	Chengwen Feng <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:59:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2602540.zToM8qfIzz@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35F654B7@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

09/10/2025 19:35, Morten Brørup:
> > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > > +		m->pkt_len = 0;
> > > +		m->tx_offload = 0;
> > > +		m->vlan_tci = 0;
> > > +		m->vlan_tci_outer = 0;
> > > +		m->port = RTE_MBUF_PORT_INVALID;
> > 
> > Have you considered doing all initialization using 64-bit stores? It's
> > generally cheaper to do a single 64-bit store than e.g. set of 16-bit
> > ones.
> 
> The code is basically copy-paste from rte_pktmbuf_reset().
> I kept it the same way for readability.
> 
> > This also means that we could remove the restriction on having refcnt
> > and
> > nb_segs already set. As in PMDs, a single store can init data_off,
> > ref_cnt,
> > nb_segs and port.
> 
> Yes, I have given the concept a lot of thought already.
> If we didn't require mbufs residing in the mempool to have any fields initialized, specifically "next" and "nb_segs", it would improve performance for drivers freeing mbufs back to the mempool, because writing to the mbufs would no longer be required at that point; the mbufs could simply be freed back to the mempool. Instead, we would require the driver to initialize these fields - which it probably does on RX anyway, if it supports segmented packets.
> But I consider this concept a major API change, also affecting applications assuming that these fields are initialized when allocating raw mbufs from the mempool. So I haven't pursued it.
> 
> > 
> > Similarly for packet_type and pkt_len, and data_len/vlan_tci and rss
> > fields
> > etc. For max performance, the whole of the mbuf cleared here can be
> > done in
> > 40 bytes, or 5 64-bit stores. If we do the stores in order, possibly
> > the
> > compiler can even opportunistically coalesce more stores, so we could
> > even
> > end up getting 128-bit or larger stores depending on the ISA compiled
> > for.
> > [Maybe the compiler will do this even if they are not in order, but I'd
> > like to maximize my chances here! :-)]

Morten, you didn't reply to this.
Can we optimize more with big stores?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-19 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-21 15:02 [PATCH v5 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] promote reinitialized mbuf free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-21 15:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mbuf: no need to reset all fields on reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling of " Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 14:26     ` Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 12:47   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] mbuf: no need to reset all fields on reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling of " Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-08-22 23:45   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-23  6:29 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] mbuf: de-inline sanity checking a reinitialized mbuf Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 16:49     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-09 17:12       ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 17:29         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-10-09 17:55           ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 20:22             ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] mbuf: promote raw free and alloc bulk functions as stable Morten Brørup
2025-10-09 16:53     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-08-23  6:30   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] mbuf: optimize reset of reinitialized mbufs Morten Brørup
2025-08-23 14:28     ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-09 17:15     ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-09 17:35       ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-10  7:43         ` Bruce Richardson
2025-10-10  9:22           ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 16:59         ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2025-10-19 18:45           ` Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 20:45       ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-10-06 14:43   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] mbuf: simplify handling " Morten Brørup
2025-10-19 20:42   ` Thomas Monjalon

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