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From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>
To: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] ethdev: configure SR-IOV VF from host
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 10:56:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30f761f1-a62f-ced5-c505-781c480628e5@ovn.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53d2b0ea-1e1e-813c-1361-264e1118680c@ovn.org>

On 01.11.2019 10:06, Ilya Maximets wrote:
> On 01.11.2019 1:24, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>> 30/10/2019 10:24, Jerin Jacob:
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:52 PM Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com> wrote:
>>>> Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:09 AM, Jerin Jacob:
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] ethdev: configure SR-IOV VF from
>>>>> host
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:21 AM Thomas Monjalon
>>>>> <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a virtual environment, the network controller may have to configure
>>>>>> some SR-IOV VF parameters for security reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to understand, Could you explain more details/examples for security
>>>>> reasons?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the PF (host port) is driven by DPDK (OVS-DPDK case), we face two
>>>>>> different cases:
>>>>>>      - driver is bifurcated (Mellanox case),
>>>>>>        so the VF can be configured via the kernel.
>>>>>>      - driver is on top of UIO or VFIO, so DPDK API is required,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true. Both UIO and VFIO are NOT allowed to create SRIOV VF from the
>>>>> PF device.
>>>>> It is only allowed through igb-uio out of tree driver without iommu support.
>>>>
>>>> Per my understanding Thomas proposal is not to create the VFs
>>>> from the PF device. it is to configure their network attributes
>>>> from the PF after they have been created.
>>>
>>> Yes. My question is without creating the VF, How do you control them?
>>
>> We can create the VF via the kernel PF driver, before binding the PF to VFIO.
> 
> AFAIK, this is not possible. VFs are gone as soon as you're unbinding kernel
> PF driver.  And after binding of vfio-pci you can no longer create VFs.
> 
> I tried to check some representor functionality about 2 months ago and didn't
> find a way to enable VFs on Intel NICs if PF is under control of vfio-pci.

Likely it was i40e driver from the kernel side.  I see from the lkml thread that
some drivers might not clear sriov on exit (ixgbe), but that wasn't my case and
it's actually a controversial feature in general.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-01  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-15 15:06 [dpdk-dev] [RFC] " Thomas Monjalon
2019-08-15 15:34 ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-08-15 17:59   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-08-29 15:02 ` Iremonger, Bernard
2019-09-04  8:23   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-29 18:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] " Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-29 18:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/3] ethdev: identify " Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-29 18:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/3] ethdev: set VF MAC address " Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-01  0:18     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] net/i[xgb|40]e: " Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-29 18:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/3] net/mlx5: " Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-30  4:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/3] ethdev: configure SR-IOV VF " Jerin Jacob
2019-10-30  7:22     ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-30  9:24       ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-01  0:24         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-01  9:06           ` Ilya Maximets
2019-11-01  9:56             ` Ilya Maximets [this message]
2019-10-30  8:56     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-30  9:15       ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-01  0:33         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-01 11:01           ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-01 13:25           ` Jerin Jacob
2019-11-03  6:31             ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-30 15:07   ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-30 15:49     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-10-30 16:09       ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-30 21:42         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-01  9:32           ` Ilya Maximets
2019-11-03  6:48             ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-11-03 15:27               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-11-03 22:09                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-07 14:44                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-11-04 10:28               ` Ilya Maximets
2019-11-04 14:30                 ` Asaf Penso
2019-11-04 14:58                   ` Ilya Maximets
2019-11-04 20:33                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-11-05 12:15                   ` Ilya Maximets

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