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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>, Akhil Goyal <gakhil@marvell.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Harman Kalra <hkalra@marvell.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richards@intel.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	Sachin Saxena <sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
	techboard@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH v3 3/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get BAR addresses
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:27:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3420992.rnzMqkiUVr@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CO6PR18MB4484F3C89A097BC2922F8E31D84C2@CO6PR18MB4484.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

22/10/2024 08:05, Akhil Goyal:
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 3:00 AM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 08/10/2024 20:49, Akhil Goyal:
> > > > Added rte_pmd_rvu_lf_bar_get() API to get BAR address
> > > > for application to configure hardware.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, we should not return PCI BAR addresses to an application.
> > > We should make an effort to have all theses details managed in the driver.
> > > Giving this level of access to an app is a door we should probably not open.
> > 
> > I agree with this in the traditional application laying context.
> > Typical layering is "driver" -> "device class like ethdev" ->application.
> > 
> > In this case, This raw driver is a proprietary 5G PCIe device where
> > the DPDK does not have a subsystem for that. So application is layered
> > to have "Hardware abstraction library" and "Application"
> > i.e "cnxk lf raw driver" -> "Hardware abstraction library using the
> > BAR address" -> "Real Application". The real application is taking
> > only to the Hardware abstraction library.
> > 
> > The rational to NOT pull "Hardware abstraction library using the BAR
> > address" to DPDK are
> > -Yet another 200K of driver C++ code which does not make sense to keep
> > in dpdk.org
> > -It can not implemenent any of the current subsystems
> > 
> > In this context, let me know what you think?
> 
> Just to add one more point.
> Even if we don’t use this API, we can still get the BAR addresses as David mentioned in another mail chain
> rte_rawdev_info_get() -> get rte_device -> RTE_DEV_TO_PCI -> get bar addr
> 
> This we can get for each raw PCI device, not just cnxk_rvu_lf. Right?
> 
> This API is just avoiding the hassle of application to use 4 calls/indirections to get the BAR address.
> So having an API to improve usability should not be an issue.

I'm not confortable taking this decision alone.
I wonder what others think?
Adding the techboard as Cc.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-07 19:33 [PATCH 0/9] drivers/raw: introduce cnxk rvu lf device driver Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 1/9] rawdev: add API to get device from index Akhil Goyal
2024-09-23 15:23   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-10-08  7:40   ` [PATCH v2] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 11:59     ` David Marchand
2024-10-08 12:00       ` [EXTERNAL] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-09 21:13         ` Akhil Goyal
2024-10-21 10:48           ` Akhil Goyal
2024-10-09  6:11     ` Hemant Agrawal
2024-10-22 19:12     ` David Marchand
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 2/9] drivers/raw: introduce cnxk rvu lf device driver Akhil Goyal
2024-09-23 15:28   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-10-08 10:54   ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 1/9] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 2/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get npa/sso pffunc Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 3/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get BAR addresses Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 4/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister interrupt handler Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 5/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister msg handler Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 6/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: set message ID range Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 7/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: process mailbox message Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 8/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add selftest Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 10:54     ` [PATCH v2 9/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get device pffunc Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 11:52     ` [PATCH v2 0/9] drivers/raw: introduce cnxk rvu lf device driver David Marchand
2024-10-08 12:10       ` [EXTERNAL] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49     ` [PATCH v3 " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 1/9] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 20:44         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-09 18:09         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-09 18:14           ` [EXTERNAL] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-23 14:01         ` David Marchand
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 2/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get npa/sso pffunc Akhil Goyal
2024-10-23 14:13         ` David Marchand
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 3/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get BAR addresses Akhil Goyal
2024-10-21 21:30         ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-10-22  2:46           ` Jerin Jacob
2024-10-22  6:05             ` [EXTERNAL] " Akhil Goyal
2024-10-22  9:27               ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2024-10-22 10:08               ` David Marchand
2024-10-22 12:06                 ` Akhil Goyal
2024-10-23 16:00                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-10-23 19:14                     ` Akhil Goyal
2024-10-23 19:29                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-10-22 15:30                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-22 17:06                   ` Jerin Jacob
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 4/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister interrupt handler Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 5/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister msg handler Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 6/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: set message ID range Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 7/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: process mailbox message Akhil Goyal
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 8/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add selftest Akhil Goyal
2024-10-23 14:16         ` David Marchand
2024-10-08 18:49       ` [PATCH v3 9/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get device pffunc Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 3/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get npa/sso pffunc Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 4/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add PMD API to get BAR addresses Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 5/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister interrupt handler Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 6/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: register/unregister msg handler Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 7/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: set message ID range Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 8/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: process mailbox message Akhil Goyal
2024-09-07 19:33 ` [PATCH 9/9] raw/cnxk_rvu_lf: add selftest Akhil Goyal

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