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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Cc: "Kinsella, Ray" <ray.kinsella@intel.com>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
	Timothy Redaelli <tredaelli@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>, dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Laatz, Kevin" <kevin.laatz@intel.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] How to manage new APIs added after major ABI release?
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:29:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3607395.IiHQ9X9RKD@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191211131103.GA19627@hmswarspite.think-freely.org>

11/12/2019 14:11, Neil Horman:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:56:28AM +0000, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > With new process, the major ABI releases will be compatible until it is
> > deprecated (until next LTS for now),
> > like current ABI version is 20 in DPDK_19.11 and DPDK versions until DPDK_20.11
> > will be ABI compatible with this version.
> > 
> > But if we introduce a new API after major ABI, say in 20.02 release, are we
> > allowed to break the ABI for that API before DPDK_20.11?
> > 
> > If we allow it break, following problem will be observed:
> > Assume an application using .so.20.1 library, and using the new API introduced
> > in 20.02, lets say foo(),
> > but when application switches to .so.20.2 (released via DPDK_20.05), application
> > will fail because of ABI breakage in foo().
> > 
> > I think it is fair that application expects forward compatibility in minor
> > versions of a shared library.
> > Like if application linked against .so.20.2, fair to expect .so.20.3, .so.20.4
> > etc will work fine. I think currently only .so.20.0 is fully forward compatible.
> > 
> > If we all agree on this, we may need to tweak the process a little, but before
> > diving into implementation details, I would like to be sure we are in same page.
> > 
> Yes, I agree with the assertion.  Once an ABI is fixed, it must be compatible
> with all future minor releases subsequent to the fixing of that ABI, until the
> next major update.  That is to say, once you release ABI_20, all minor updates
> 20.01, 20.02, etc must be compatible with ABI_20 until such time as ABI_21 is
> released.

The question of Ferruh was about compatibility of 20.2 vs 20.1,
given both are compatible with 20.0 of course.
The question makes sense if a new symbol is added in 20.1.
And yes I think the symbol added in a minor version must be kept
until the next major ABI.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-11 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-10 11:56 Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-10 12:04 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 12:40   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-10 14:36     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 15:03       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-12-10 15:46         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 16:20           ` Luca Boccassi
2019-12-10 16:32             ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 17:01               ` Kinsella, Ray
2019-12-10 17:04               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-12-10 18:22                 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-12-10 23:34                   ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 16:39             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-12-10 17:00               ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-10 15:04       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-10 15:37         ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-10 15:40       ` Kinsella, Ray
2019-12-11 13:32       ` Neil Horman
2019-12-11 13:11 ` Neil Horman
2019-12-11 13:29   ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2019-12-11 13:30   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-11 14:34     ` Neil Horman
2019-12-11 15:29       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-11 15:02     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-12-11 15:17       ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-11 15:46       ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-12-11 15:55         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-12-11 16:30           ` Ferruh Yigit

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