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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, john.mcnamara@intel.com,
	bruce.richardson@intel.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 17:27:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4126394.lds5JWlh5s@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180114143648.GA25083@neilslaptop.think-freely.org>

14/01/2018 15:36, Neil Horman:
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 04:56:11PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > 13/01/2018 01:28, Neil Horman:
> > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:55:10PM +0000, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> > > > After this point agree to using EXPERIMENTAL tag in the version map as standard,
> > > > but it will be hard to maintain "API is experimental for first release" without
> > > > help of any automated tool.
> > > > 
> > > I completely agree, in fact I would say it is impossible to do without tooling,
> > > with or without this change.  I think we need to do 1 of 2 things:
> > > 
> > > 1) Add some code to checkpatch.pl to put up a warning if any new apis are added
> > > without marking them as experimental
> > > 
> > > 2) Change the documentation to be a suggestion rather than a requirement.
> > > 
> > > I'll look into doing (1), but I'm wondering if (2) is the more flexible way to
> > > go. I'm hesitant to enforce the initial marking of new APIs as experimental.
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > There will be always cases where we are sure that the experimental step
> > is not needed.
> > Even if it is required and checked by a tool, we can ignore it, right?
> > However, there is no big benefit of bypassing the experimental step.
> > 
> > I am for making mandatory the new API as experimental.
> > We will handle the exceptions case by case if any.
> > 
> If the consensus is to require experimental marking by default, and grant
> exceptions as needed, then I would strongly suggest that we do this in
> checkpatch as I can modify it to warn people of added API's (which will be
> reflected in the CI tool, if the CI group is still maintaining it), but we can
> collectively ignore it if its so clearly trivial that it requires no
> experimental addition (which I think may freqently be the case).

I am OK with this approach.

> I'll start work on that on monday

Good

I wonder how difficult it can be to implement.
Note: we do not maintain a fork of checkpatch.pl.
We just have a shell wrapper checkpatch.sh.

Maybe you should start a different tool.
Can it use Coccinelle?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-14 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 18:56 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 11:35     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-11 12:40       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-11 12:45         ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-11 18:44           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-30 17:15     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-04 12:56       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-05 14:08         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 16:00           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-09  1:32             ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-ci] " Neil Horman
2018-01-09  9:20               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-09 12:36                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 15:44                 ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:33   ` [dpdk-dev] " Mcnamara, John
2017-12-12 20:18     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 15:11   ` Wiles, Keith
2017-12-12 20:14     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 " Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:31     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:07       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:37     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 20:50       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:49         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 12:44           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:54             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:34               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:37                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 18:50     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:19       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:24       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:25           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:53             ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:32     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:29       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:37           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:55             ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-13  0:28               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-13 15:56                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-14 14:36                   ` Neil Horman
2018-01-14 16:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2018-01-21 20:14     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-21 14:21   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-30 19:20   ` Luca Boccassi
2017-12-31  1:57     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] " Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 2/5] compat: Add __rte_experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 4/5] dpdk: add __rte_experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2018-01-23 10:35     ` Mcnamara, John
2018-01-29 21:42       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-29 21:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-30 15:54     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-30 16:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-31 12:18         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-31 12:36           ` Thomas Monjalon

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