From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarguil@6wind.com>
Cc: "Yuanhan Liu" <yliu@fridaylinux.org>,
"Gaëtan Rivet" <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>,
"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
dev@dpdk.org, "Ciara Loftus" <ciara.loftus@intel.com>,
"Kevin Traynor" <ktraynor@redhat.com>,
hemant.agrawal@nxp.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] [RFC] ether: standardize getting the port by name
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 14:20:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4433948.XFY0rnHxgs@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171205110446.GN4062@6wind.com>
05/12/2017 12:04, Adrien Mazarguil:
> Hi Yuanhan,
>
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 09:55:31PM +0800, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
> > rte_devargs is identified by the name (pci id for pci device). It also
> > includes other driver specific key-value options. It's not clear for the
> > user to know which one (or few) of them should be used together with the
> > PCI id to identify a specific port. For example, as you mentioned, in
> > mlx4, it's "pci_id,port=x". It could be something else in other drivers.
>
> Just for information, this "port=x" argument in mlx4 is consistent with the
> value found in /sys/class/net/ethX/dev_port under Linux. If we choose to use
> a port index (instead of a MAC or something else), it would make sense to
> standardize it on the same order as given by the host OS for consistency
> across all PMDs.
Good idea, thanks.
I think we will MAC in some cases and port number in others.
It is important to have identifiers available even without initializing
the device.
> Devices with a single port per PCI address would simply use/allow "0".
>
> > Actually, this patch also proposes a devarg like naming style: "name[,mac]".
> > What it does try to do is to define a standard syntax, so that the user
> > doesn't have to know any driver specific options.
> >
> > However, the mac address is changeable, leaving this naming inconsistent.
> > Well, in practice, PCI id is also changeable.
> >
> > OTOH, having a consistent naming seems a bit far away from this patch's
> > goal: define a standard ethdev naming and leave less harassment to the users.
>
> I'm not a fan of the MAC naming scheme either, a kind of per-device physical
> port index seems more robust and doesn't require much initialization to
> determine how many ports are supported by the device and whether the index is
> known/valid (particularly given the vast majority exposes only one per bus
> address).
>
> Would it make sense to have this name usable unmodified as a valid device
> (-w) argument, including parameters?
Yes we must provide some new key/value arguments for devargs.
So it can be used anywhere, including -w/-b options in DPDK
or port configuration in OVS.
> If so, PMDs could append parameters while probing the underlying device, by
> appending ",port=x", ",mac=x" followed by other unspecified parameters with
> default values. This could uniquely identify the port _and_ its
> configuration in a reusable fashion.
Question: should we separate device identification and configuration
in the syntax?
> Otherwise if all we need is unique names, we can use the opposite and much
> simpler approach. Let librte_ether assign them sequentially
> (e.g. "rte_eth%d", no need for consistency with OS netdevices), applications
> can figure the rest based on data structures if needed.
No, unique names are not useful / not usable by users.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-05 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-30 7:35 Yuanhan Liu
2017-11-30 17:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 17:35 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-11-30 21:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 21:44 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-01 9:47 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-12-04 13:55 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-12-05 11:04 ` Adrien Mazarguil
2017-12-05 13:20 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-12-05 13:58 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-12-05 15:28 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-05 17:22 ` Adrien Mazarguil
2017-12-06 15:49 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-12-18 22:25 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-18 22:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-18 22:41 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-18 23:05 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-20 22:02 ` [dpdk-dev] standardize device identification Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-22 7:01 ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-12-22 9:00 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 7:52 ` Finn Christensen
2018-01-05 8:39 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 11:09 ` Finn Christensen
2018-01-05 12:01 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 14:14 ` Finn Christensen
2018-01-05 15:34 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 20:32 ` Finn Christensen
2018-01-16 20:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] [RFC] ether: standardize getting the port by name Ferruh Yigit
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