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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: techboard@dpdk.org, dev <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] [PATCH v6 2/8] eal: fix error attribute use for clang
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 09:54:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5134619.so0YE94iNX@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8xXugBRDbWVAK37gw_D0KTJ+N7tCQgjNNDe-3SqCJYnEQ@mail.gmail.com>

29/01/2021 09:35, David Marchand:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 6:36 PM Bruce Richardson
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > > We will never know about those compilers behavior, like how we caught
> > > > > > the clang issue and found an alternative.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So I understand, but I'm still concerned about breaking something that was
> > > > > previously working. It's one thing a DPDK developer catching issues with
> > > > > clang, quite another a user catching it when trying to build their own
> > > > > application.
> > > > >
> > > > > We probably need some other opinions on this one.
> > > > >
> > > > Adding Tech-board to see if we can get some more thoughts on this before I do
> > > > another revision of this set.
> > >
> > > What are the alternatives?
> > >
> >
> > The basic problem is what to do when a compiler is used which does not support
> > the required macros to flag an error for use of an internal-only function.
> > For example, we discovered this because clang does not support the #error
> > macro.
> 
> *attribute*
> 
> >
> > In those cases, as I see it, we really have two choices:
> >
> > 1 ignore flagging the error and silently allow possible use of the internal
> >   function.
> > 2 have the compiler flag an error for an unknown macro
> >
> > The problem that I have with #2 is that without knowing the macro, the
> > compiler will likely error out any time a user app includes any header with
> > an internal function, even if the function is unused.
> >
> > On the other hand, the likelihood of impact if we choose #2 and do error out is
> > quite small, since modern clang versions will support the modern macro
> > checks we need, and just about any gcc versions we care about are going to
> > support #error.

If there are very small chances of hitting the issue, it looks acceptable.
But I don't really like risking issues with not tested compilers.

> > For #1, the downside is that we will miss error checks on some older
> > versions of gcc e.g. RHEL 7, and the user may inadvertently use an internal
> > function without knowing it.

The function is marked as internal.
If the user misses this info and test only with compilers not supporting
the attribute, that's no luck.
What would be the consequence? Having a risk for future compatibility?
It looks to be an acceptable risk.
The other consequence it that we won't have reports for this rare
incompatibility.

> > David, anything else to add here?
> 
> Nop, fair summary.

My preference is for #1:
	pro: No compilation will be impacted in the field
	con: DPDK developers may miss some cases

Any other opinion?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-29  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-14 11:05 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/20] ensure headers have correct includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/20] eal: fix missing header inclusion Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/20] telemetry: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/20] ethdev: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/20] ring: fix missing includes for c11 model header Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 12:57   ` David Marchand
2021-01-14 13:54     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/20] net: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/20] mbuf: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/20] bitratestats: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/20] rib: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/20] vhost: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/20] ipsec: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 11/20] fib: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 12/20] table: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 13/20] pipeline: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 14/20] metrics: fix variable declaration in header Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 15/20] node: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 16/20] app: fix extra include paths for app builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 17/20] app/chkincs: add chkincs app to verify headers Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 12:16   ` David Marchand
2021-01-14 12:28     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 12:49       ` David Marchand
2021-01-14 16:04   ` David Marchand
2021-01-14 16:18     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 18/20] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 19/20] eal/x86: add architecture-specific headers to chkincs Bruce Richardson
2021-01-14 11:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 20/20] test-meson-builds: add includes check to default x86 build Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/19] ensure headers have correct includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/19] eal: fix missing header inclusion Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/19] telemetry: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/19] ethdev: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 15:38     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/19] net: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-16 12:10     ` Ophir Munk
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/19] mbuf: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 15:40     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/19] bitratestats: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/19] rib: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:37     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/19] vhost: " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-21  8:38     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/19] ipsec: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:35     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-01-15 11:37     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-15 11:45       ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-15 11:49         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/19] fib: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:37     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 11/19] table: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 12/19] pipeline: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 13/19] metrics: fix variable declaration in header Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 14/19] node: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 15/19] app: fix extra include paths for app builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 16/19] app/chkincs: add chkincs app to verify headers Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:51     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-15 11:59       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 14:09         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-15 14:55           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 14:59             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-20 14:34               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-20 15:05                 ` David Marchand
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 17/19] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 13:25     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 18/19] eal/x86: add architecture-specific headers to chkincs Bruce Richardson
2021-01-15 11:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 19/19] test-meson-builds: add includes check to default x86 build Bruce Richardson
2021-01-21  9:25   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/19] ensure headers have correct includes David Marchand
2021-01-21  9:33     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-21  9:36       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-21  9:43         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-21 15:15         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-21 23:20           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-22 10:44             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 14:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] add checking of header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 14:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 14:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] build: separate out headers for include checking Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 14:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] buildtools/chkincs: add app to verify header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 14:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] devtools: remove check-includes script Bruce Richardson
2021-01-25 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] add checking of header includes David Marchand
2021-01-25 18:17     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 11:15     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:04       ` David Marchand
2021-01-26 14:24         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:39           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 15:31             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-26 15:42               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 15:50                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-26 14:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] eal: fix error attribute use for clang Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] rib: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:21     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] build: separate out headers for include checking Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] buildtools/chkincs: add app to verify header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] devtools: remove check-includes script Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 14:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] ci: add checking of includes to CI builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/8] add checking of header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/8] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/8] eal: fix error attribute use for clang Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/8] ethdev: make driver-only headers private Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27  8:56     ` David Marchand
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/8] rib: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 11:08     ` Medvedkin, Vladimir
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/8] build: separate out headers for include checking Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/8] buildtools/chkincs: add app to verify header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/8] devtools: remove check-includes script Bruce Richardson
2021-01-26 21:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 8/8] ci: add checking of includes to CI builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 14:46     ` Aaron Conole
2021-01-27 17:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/8] add checking of header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/8] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/8] eal: fix error attribute use for clang Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:00     ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 11:20       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 13:36         ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 14:16           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 15:16             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 16:46               ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-28 17:36                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29  8:35                   ` David Marchand
2021-01-29  8:54                     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/8] rib: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:01     ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 11:20       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/8] ethdev: make driver-only headers private Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:48     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-28 10:17     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-28 11:01     ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 16:38     ` Webster, Steven
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/8] build: separate out headers for include checking Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:07     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-28 11:23       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/8] buildtools/chkincs: add app to verify header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:02     ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 11:27       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:31         ` David Marchand
2021-01-28 11:48           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 17:23           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 7/8] devtools: remove check-includes script Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:10     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-28 11:38       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 14:05         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-27 17:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 8/8] ci: add checking of includes to CI builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 11:12     ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-01-28 11:41       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-28 18:34         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 17:42           ` David Marchand
2021-01-29 21:38             ` Aaron Conole
2021-01-28 10:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/8] add checking of header includes David Marchand
2021-01-28 11:47     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 00/10] " Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 01/10] eal: add missing include to mcslock Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 02/10] eal: fix error attribute use for clang Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 03/10] power: fix missing header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 04/10] rib: fix missing header include Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 05/10] ethdev: make driver-only headers private Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 06/10] eventdev: " Bruce Richardson
2021-02-22 22:34     ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 07/10] build: separate out headers for include checking Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 08/10] buildtools/chkincs: add app to verify header includes Bruce Richardson
2021-02-02 11:36     ` David Marchand
2021-02-02 12:23       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 09/10] devtools: remove check-includes script Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 16:55   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 10/10] ci: add checking of includes to CI builds Bruce Richardson
2021-01-29 21:37     ` Aaron Conole
2021-01-29 20:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 00/10] add checking of header includes David Marchand

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