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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"linuxarm@openeuler.org" <linuxarm@openeuler.org>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>, Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>,
	Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ethdev: add queue state when retrieve queue information
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:19:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a386889-e562-7439-7101-a88d91da9413@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4fa64451-b647-c946-733e-a95297cdfa4a@intel.com>

On 3/23/2021 10:13 AM, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> On 3/22/2021 6:53 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:08 PM
>>> To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Yigit, Ferruh 
>>> <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>;
>>> thomas@monjalon.net
>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; linuxarm@openeuler.org; Andrew Rybchenko 
>>> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>; David Marchand
>>> <david.marchand@redhat.com>; Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>; Luca Boccassi 
>>> <bluca@debian.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ethdev: add queue state when retrieve queue 
>>> information
>>>
>>> On 3/22/21 7:53 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 4:02 PM
>>>>> To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Yigit, Ferruh 
>>>>> <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>;
>>>>> thomas@monjalon.net
>>>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; linuxarm@openeuler.org; Andrew Rybchenko 
>>>>> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>; David Marchand
>>>>> <david.marchand@redhat.com>; Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>; Luca Boccassi 
>>>>> <bluca@debian.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ethdev: add queue state when retrieve queue 
>>>>> information
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/22/21 6:45 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: dev <dev-bounces@dpdk.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Rybchenko
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 2:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; Lijun Ou 
>>>>>>> <oulijun@huawei.com>; thomas@monjalon.net
>>>>>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; linuxarm@openeuler.org; Andrew Rybchenko 
>>>>>>> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>; David Marchand
>>>>>>> <david.marchand@redhat.com>; Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>; Luca Boccassi 
>>>>>>> <bluca@debian.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ethdev: add queue state when retrieve 
>>>>>>> queue information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/22/21 12:22 PM, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2021 12:25 PM, Lijun Ou wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Currently, upper-layer application could get queue state only
>>>>>>>>> through pointers such as dev->data->tx_queue_state[queue_id],
>>>>>>>>> this is not the recommended way to access it. So this patch
>>>>>>>>> add get queue state when call rte_eth_rx_queue_info_get and
>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_tx_queue_info_get API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note: The hairpin queue is not supported with above
>>>>>>>>> rte_eth_*x_queue_info_get, so the queue state could be
>>>>>>>>> RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_STARTED or RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_STOPPED.
>>>>>>>>> Note: After add queue_state field, the 'struct rte_eth_rxq_info' size
>>>>>>>>> remains 128B, and the 'struct rte_eth_txq_info' size remains 64B, so
>>>>>>>>> it could be ABI compatible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chengwen Feng <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <...>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>>>>>> b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>>>>>> index efda313..3b83c5a 100644
>>>>>>>>> --- a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>>>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
>>>>>>>>> @@ -1591,6 +1591,8 @@ struct rte_eth_rxq_info {
>>>>>>>>>        uint8_t scattered_rx;       /**< scattered packets RX supported. */
>>>>>>>>>        uint16_t nb_desc;           /**< configured number of RXDs. */
>>>>>>>>>        uint16_t rx_buf_size;       /**< hardware receive buffer size. */
>>>>>>>>> +    /**< Queues state: STARTED(1) / STOPPED(0). */
>>>>>>>>> +    uint8_t queue_state;
>>>>>>>>>    } __rte_cache_min_aligned;
>>>>>>>>>      /**
>>>>>>>>> @@ -1600,6 +1602,8 @@ struct rte_eth_rxq_info {
>>>>>>>>>    struct rte_eth_txq_info {
>>>>>>>>>        struct rte_eth_txconf conf; /**< queue config parameters. */
>>>>>>>>>        uint16_t nb_desc;           /**< configured number of TXDs. */
>>>>>>>>> +    /**< Queues state: STARTED(1) / STOPPED(0). */
>>>>>>>>> +    uint8_t queue_state;
>>>>>>>>>    } __rte_cache_min_aligned;
>>>>>>>>>      /* Generic Burst mode flag definition, values can be ORed. */
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is causing an ABI warning [1], but I guess it is safe since the
>>>>>>>> size of the struct is not changing (cache align). Adding a few more
>>>>>>>> people to comment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://travis-ci.com/github/ovsrobot/dpdk/builds/220497651
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frankly speaking I dislike addition of queue_state as uint8_t.
>>>>>>> IMHO it should be either 'bool started' or enum to support more
>>>>>>> states in the future if we need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we already have set of defines for it:
>>>>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_driver.h:925:#define 
>>>>>> RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_STOPPED 0
>>>>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_driver.h:926:#define 
>>>>>> RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_STARTED 1
>>>>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_driver.h:927:#define 
>>>>>> RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_HAIRPIN 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we want to publish it, then might be enough just move these macros to 
>>>>>> rte_ethdev.h or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About uint8_t vs enum - yes, in principle enum would be a bit nicer,
>>>>>> but right now rte_eth_dev_data.(rx|tx)_queue_state[]  itself is an array 
>>>>>> of uint8_t.
>>>>>> So probably not much point to waste extra 3B in rte_eth_(rxq|txq)_info.
>>>>>> Unless in future will want to change it in struct rte_eth_dev_data too
>>>>>> (or even hide it inside dev private queue data).
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot about hairpin and bitmask... If so, I think it is
>>>>> sufficient to fix absolutely misleading comment, say
>>>>> that it is a bit mask and think about removal of
>>>>> RTE_ETH_QUEUE_STATE_STOPPED (since it could be
>>>>> stopped+hairpin). May be consider to use uin16_t,
>>>>> since 8 bit is really small bitmask. It still fits in
>>>>> available hole.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, as I can read the code - hairpin queue can't be started/stopped by SW,
>>>> and each of the states (stopped/started/hairpin) is mutually exclusive.
>>>> Is that not what was intended when hairpin queues were introduced?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, yes, you're right. My memory lies to me. If queue state
>>> is not a bit mask, it should be an enum from API point of view.
>>> Rx/Tx queue info structures are control path. I see no point to
>>> save bits here. Clear API is more important on control path.
>>> The only reason here to use uint8_t is to avoid ABI breakage.
>>> I can't judge if it is critical to wait or not.
>>
>> As alternate thought - introduce new API function,
>> something like:
>> int rte_eth_get_rxq_state(portid, queue_id);
>> Then rte_eth_dev_is_rx_hairpin_queue() probably can be deprecated
>> in favour of this new one.
>>
>>
> 
> The 'rte_eth_dev_is_rx_hairpin_queue()' is internal function, and it is not 
> visible to the application, it should be OK to keep it.
> 
> But 'STATE_HAIRPIN' should be kept internal, or should be available to the 
> application?
> 
> The actual need is to know the start/stop state of the queue. That is for app to 
> decide if 'rte_eth_tx_done_cleanup()' can be done or not an a queue:
> https://patches.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1614938252-62955-1-git-send-email-oulijun@huawei.com/ 
> 
> 
> And normally I also prefer APIs with simple & clear responsibility, but this one 
> seems very related to the existing '_queue_info_get()' ones, so I am fine with 
> both options.
> 

Another high-level discussion is, testpmd keeps lots of config/state itself, I 
assume that is because it is not possible to get all DPDK config/state from DPDK 
library, but not sure if this is a design decision.

Should we try to provide all config/state information via DPDK APIs, or should 
we push this responsibility to the application level?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-18 12:25 Lijun Ou
2021-03-22  9:22 ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-03-22  9:38   ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-03-22  9:39   ` oulijun
2021-03-22 14:49   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-03-22 15:45     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-03-22 16:02       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-03-22 16:53         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-03-22 17:07           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2021-03-22 18:53             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-03-23 10:13               ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-03-23 10:19                 ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2021-03-23 11:07                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-03-25 10:01       ` oulijun
2021-03-25 10:18         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-03-25 11:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V2] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-06  0:49   ` oulijun
2021-04-06  1:55     ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-04-14 10:09       ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-06 14:02   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-04-14 10:40     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-14 10:56       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-04-15  2:40   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V3] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-15 12:33     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-15 12:36       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-15 12:45         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-15 13:34           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-16  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [Linuxarm] " oulijun
2021-04-16  7:31             ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-16  8:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V4] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-16  8:58       ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-16  9:41         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-16  9:57           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-23 11:08             ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-04-25 16:42               ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-26  9:48                 ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-04-16  9:55         ` oulijun
2021-04-16  9:19       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-04-17  3:09       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-17 22:00         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-19  1:39           ` oulijun
2021-04-19  2:04           ` oulijun
2021-04-19  2:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V6] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-19  8:41           ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-19  8:58             ` oulijun
2021-04-19  8:57           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7] " Lijun Ou
2021-04-19  9:03             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-19 10:48               ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-23 11:17         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5] " Kinsella, Ray
2021-04-23 11:26           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-04-23 15:43             ` Kinsella, Ray

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