From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/10] VM Power Management
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:10:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6597811.ARdDfzU0XI@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <548B00B3.8040201@redhat.com>
2014-12-12 15:50, Paolo Bonzini:
> On 12/12/2014 14:00, Carew, Alan wrote:
> > The problem is deterministic control of host CPU frequency and the DPDK usage
> > model.
> > A hands-off power governor will scale based on workload, whether this is a host
> > application or VM, so no problems or bug there.
> >
> > Where this solution fits is where an application wants to control its own
> > power policy, for example l3fwd_power uses librte_power library to change
> > frequency via apci_cpufreq based on application heuristics rather than
> > relying on an inbuilt policy for example ondemand or performance.
> >
> > This ability has existed in DPDK for host usage for some time and VM power
> > management allows this use case to be extended to cater for virtual machines
> > by re-using the librte_power interface to encapsulate the VM->Host
> > comms and provide an example means of managing such communications.
> >
> > I hope this clears it up a bit.
>
> Ok, this looks specific enough that an out-of-band solution within DPDK
> sounds like the best approach. It seems unnecessary to involve the
> hypervisor (neither KVM nor QEMU).
Paolo, I don't understand why you don't imagine controlling frequency scaling
of a pinned vCPU transparently?
In my understanding, we currently cannot control frequency scaling without
knowing wether we are in a VM or not.
--
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-12 16:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-22 18:34 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH " Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/10] " Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/10] Alternate implementation of librte_power " Alan Carew
2014-09-22 19:17 ` Neil Horman
2014-09-23 7:48 ` Carew, Alan
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-22 18:34 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/10] VM Power Management Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
2014-09-25 10:10 ` Neil Horman
2014-09-25 17:06 ` Carew, Alan
2014-09-25 17:49 ` Neil Horman
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-24 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-09-25 2:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/10] VM Power Management Liu, Yong
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-09-29 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-09-29 17:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 00/10] VM Power Management Neil Horman
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Alan Carew
2014-10-16 18:28 ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Alan Carew
2014-10-12 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Alan Carew
2014-10-13 6:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 00/10] VM Power Management Liu, Yong
2014-10-13 20:26 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-10-14 12:37 ` Carew, Alan
2014-10-14 15:03 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-10-16 15:21 ` Carew, Alan
2014-10-28 15:21 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-10 9:05 ` Carew, Alan
2014-11-10 17:54 ` O'driscoll, Tim
2014-11-21 23:51 ` Zhu, Heqing
2014-11-22 17:17 ` Vincent JARDIN
2014-12-09 17:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-11 23:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-12-12 13:00 ` Carew, Alan
2014-12-12 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-12 16:10 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2014-12-12 16:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 00/10] Virtual Machine " Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-21 17:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Virtual Machine Power Management Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 01/10] Channel Manager and Monitor for VM Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-29 15:21 ` Neil Horman
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 02/10] VM Power Management CLI(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 03/10] CPU Frequency Power Management(Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 04/10] VM Power Management application and Makefile Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 05/10] VM Power Management CLI(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 06/10] VM communication channels for VM Power Management(Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 07/10] librte_power common interface for Guest and Host Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 08/10] Packet format for VM Power Management(Host and Guest) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 09/10] Build system integration for VM Power Management(Guest and Host) Pablo de Lara
2014-11-25 16:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 10/10] VM Power Management Unit Tests Pablo de Lara
2014-11-26 16:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Virtual Machine Power Management Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-10 9:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] librte_cmdline: FreeBSD Fix oveflow when size of command result structure is greater than BUFSIZ Alan Carew
2014-12-05 14:16 ` Olivier MATZ
2014-12-05 14:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Olivier Matz
2014-12-05 15:51 ` Bruce Richardson
2014-12-05 15:58 ` Thomas Monjalon
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