From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
Cc: Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
dev@dpdk.org, david.marchand@redhat.com, "Mcnamara,
John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: ensure sphinx output is reproducible
Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 23:10:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6628584.G0QQBjFxQf@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMw=ZnQ7zUTZDr+Nv47rUgE5e2YFgn5GpWKDc-CTmS2qZYe1uQ@mail.gmail.com>
19/05/2024 19:23, Luca Boccassi:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 18:13, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> >
> > 19/05/2024 18:36, Luca Boccassi:
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 15:01, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> > > > 17/05/2024 13:29, Luca Boccassi:
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 17:04, Bruce Richardson
> > > > > <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 05:45:52PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> > > > > > > I would prefer adding an option for reproducible build
> > > > > > > (which is not a common requirement).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Taking a slightly different tack, is it possible to sort the searchindex.js
> > > > > > file post-build, so that even reproducible builds get the benefits of
> > > > > > parallelism?
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the recent attacks with malicious sources being injected in open
> > > > > source projects, reproducible builds are more important than ever and
> > > > > should just be the default.
> > > >
> > > > Yes it should be the default when packaging.
> > > > Why should it be the default for normal builds?
> > >
> > > Build reproducibility is everyone's responsibility, not just Linux
> > > distributions. There should be no difference between a "normal build"
> > > and a "packaging build". As far as I know, it is still fully supported
> > > for DPDK consumers to take the git repository, build it and ship it
> > > themselves - those cases also need their builds to be reproducible.
> >
> > Sorry I really don't understand this point.
> > The goal of a reproducible build is to maintain a stable hash, right?
> > This hash needs to be stable only when it is published, isn't it?
> > So isn't it enough to give a build option for having a reproducible build?
>
> The goal is that issues breaking reproducibility are bugs and treated
> as such. You wouldn't have a build option to allow buffer overflows or
> null pointer dereferences, and so on. "The program builds
> reproducibly" today and in the future has the same importance as "the
> program doesn't write beyond bounds" or "the program doesn't crash" -
> they are not optional qualities, they are table stakes, and
> regulations are only going to get stricter.
I hear the technical reasons and want to address them, but
I don't understand how regulation comes in an open source project.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-19 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-29 12:58 christian.ehrhardt
2023-06-29 13:02 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2023-07-03 15:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-07-06 12:49 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2023-11-27 16:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-11-27 17:00 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-17 11:29 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 13:54 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-19 16:36 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 17:13 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-19 17:23 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-19 21:10 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2024-05-20 9:53 ` Luca Boccassi
2024-05-20 15:39 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-20 18:59 ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-05-26 11:30 ` Thomas Monjalon
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