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From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
To: Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:49:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <663a2ea8-cb32-9960-75d1-2a4854dcc0ff@oktetlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR12MB1360EECBBCBF64E432D89807DF020@MWHPR12MB1360.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On 10/15/20 10:43 AM, Slava Ovsiienko wrote:
> Hi, Jerin
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 21:57
>> To: Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
>> <thomas@monjalon.net>; Stephen Hemminger
>> <stephen@networkplumber.org>; Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>;
>> Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>; Maxime Coquelin
>> <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>; David Marchand
>> <david.marchand@redhat.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
>> <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:42 PM Viacheslav Ovsiienko
>> <viacheslavo@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The DPDK datapath in the transmit direction is very flexible.
>>> An application can build the multi-segment packet and manages almost
>>> all data aspects - the memory pools where segments are allocated from,
>>> the segment lengths, the memory attributes like external buffers,
>>> registered for DMA, etc.
>>>
> 
> [..snip..]
> 
>>> For example, let's suppose we configured the Rx queue with the
>>> following segments:
>>>     seg0 - pool0, len0=14B, off0=2
>>>     seg1 - pool1, len1=20B, off1=128B
>>>     seg2 - pool2, len2=20B, off2=0B
>>>     seg3 - pool3, len3=512B, off3=0B
>>
>>
>> Sorry for chime in late. This API lookout looks good to me.
>> But, I am wondering how the application can know the capability or "limits" of
>> struct rte_eth_rxseg structure for the specific PMD. The other descriptor limit,
>> it's being exposed with struct rte_eth_dev_info::rx_desc_lim; If PMD can
>> support a specific pattern rather than returning the blanket error, the
>> application should know the limit.
>> IMO, it is better to add
>> struct rte_eth_rxseg *rxsegs;
>> unint16_t nb_max_rxsegs
>> in rte_eth_dev_info structure to express the capablity.
>> Where the en and offset can define the max offset.
>>
>> Thoughts?
> 
> Moreover, there might be implied a lot of various limitations - offsets might be not supported at all or
> have some requirements for alignment, the similar requirements might be applied to segment size
> (say, ask for some granularity). Currently it is not obvious how to report all nuances, and it is supposed
> the limitations of this kind must be documented in PMD chapter. As for mlx5 - it has no special
> limitations besides common requirements to the regular segments.
> 
> One more point - the split feature might be considered as just one of possible cases of using
> these segment descriptions, other features might impose other (unknown for now) limitations.
> If we see some of the features of such kind or other PMDs adopts the split feature - we'll try to find
> the common root and consider the way how to report it.

At least there are few simple limitations which are easy to
express:
 1. Maximum number of segments
 2. Possibility to use the last segment many times if required
    (I was suggesting to use scatter for it, but you rejected
     the idea - may be time to reconsider :) )
 3. Maximum offset
    Frankly speaking I'm not sure why it cannot be handled on
    PMD level (i.e. provide descriptors with offset taken into
    account or guarantee that HW mempool objects initialized
    correctly with required headroom). May be in some corner
    cases when the same HW mempool is shared by various
    segments with different offset requirements.
 4. Offset alignment
 5. Maximum/minimum length of a segment
 6. Length alignment

I realize that 3, 4 and 5 could be per segment number.
If it is really that complex, report common denominator
which is guaranteed to work. If we have no checks on ethdev
layer, application can ignore it if it knows better.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-15  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 17:49 [dpdk-dev] [RFC] " Slava Ovsiienko
2020-09-17 16:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-01  8:54   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12  8:45     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-12  9:56       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 15:14         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-12 15:28           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-12 15:34             ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 15:56               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-12 15:59                 ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:52                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-12 16:03           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-12 16:10             ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 21:59         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-14  7:17           ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-14  7:37           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-05  6:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/9] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/9] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-11 22:17     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-12  9:40       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 10:09         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/9] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/9] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/9] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/9] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/9] net/mlx5: add extended Rx queue setup routine Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 7/9] net/mlx5: configure Rx queue to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 8/9] net/mlx5: register multiple pool for Rx queue Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-07 15:06   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 9/9] net/mlx5: update Rx datapath to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/9] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/9] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:38     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-12 17:03       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-12 17:11         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-12 20:22           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 17:11         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/9] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/9] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/9] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/9] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] net/mlx5: add extended Rx queue setup routine Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/9] net/mlx5: configure Rx queue to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/9] net/mlx5: register multiple pool for Rx queue Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 16:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 9/9] net/mlx5: update Rx datapath to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/9] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/9] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/9] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/9] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/9] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/9] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/9] net/mlx5: add extended Rx queue setup routine Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/9] net/mlx5: configure Rx queue to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 8/9] net/mlx5: register multiple pool for Rx queue Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-12 20:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 9/9] net/mlx5: update Rx datapath to support split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 22:34     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-14 13:31       ` Olivier Matz
2020-10-14 14:42       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-13 19:21   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:57     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-10-15  7:43       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15  9:27         ` Jerin Jacob
2020-10-15 10:27           ` Jerin Jacob
2020-10-15 10:51             ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 11:26               ` Jerin Jacob
2020-10-15 11:36                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-15 11:49                   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 12:49                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-15 13:07                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-15 13:57                         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:22                         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15  9:49         ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2020-10-15 10:34           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 11:09             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-15 14:39               ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 22:13     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-14 22:50     ` Ajit Khaparde
2020-10-15 10:11     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-15 10:19       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-14 18:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-14 18:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15  0:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] eal/rte_malloc: add alloc_size() attribute to allocation functions Stephen Hemminger
2020-10-19 14:13   ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-19 14:22     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-15 20:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:30     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-10-15 20:33     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-15 22:01       ` Ajit Khaparde
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-15 20:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  8:51     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-16  8:58       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-16  9:15       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  9:27         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-16  9:34           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  9:37         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-16  9:38           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  9:19     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16  9:21       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-10-16  9:22       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16  7:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 11:21     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 13:08       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 10:22   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 12:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 13:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 15:14     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-16 16:18       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 15:47     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 16:05       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-10-16 16:06         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 15:05     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 15:38       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 15:48         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 15:52           ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 15:55             ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 15:57               ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 13:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/6] " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 19:22     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 21:36       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/6] app/testpmd: add multiple pools per core creation Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 3/6] app/testpmd: add buffer split offload configuration Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 4/6] app/testpmd: add rxpkts commands and parameters Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 5/6] app/testpmd: add rxoffs " Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 16:44   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 6/6] app/testpmd: add extended Rx queue setup Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-10-16 17:05   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/6] ethdev: introduce Rx buffer split Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-16 17:07     ` Slava Ovsiienko

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