From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
Akhil Goyal <akhil.goyal@nxp.com>,
"Trahe, Fiona" <fiona.trahe@intel.com>
Cc: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
Anoob Joseph <anoobj@marvell.com>,
"Kusztal, ArkadiuszX" <arkadiuszx.kusztal@intel.com>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"nhorman@tuxdriver.com" <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
"Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>,
"dodji@seketeli.net" <dodji@seketeli.net>,
Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
"aconole@redhat.com" <aconole@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] add ABI checks
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 09:30:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <666f2cc7-0906-7a07-a582-87800f321a00@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR11MB2558D24506EF92EBDEE3CB3B9A010@SN6PR11MB2558.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 2/2/2020 2:41 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
>
>> 31/01/2020 15:16, Trahe, Fiona:
>>> On 1/30/2020 8:18 PM, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>>> 30/01/2020 17:09, Ferruh Yigit:
>>>>> On 1/29/2020 8:13 PM, Akhil Goyal wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe these enums will be used only in case of ASYM case which is experimental.
>>>>>
>>>>> Independent from being experiment and not, this shouldn't be a problem, I think
>>>>> this is a false positive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ABI break can happen when a struct has been shared between the application
>>>>> and the library (DPDK) and the layout of that memory know differently by
>>>>> application and the library.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in all cases, there is no layout/size change.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to the value changes of the enums, since application compiled with old DPDK,
>>>>> it will know only up to '6', 7 and more means invalid to the application. So it
>>>>> won't send these values also it should ignore these values from library. Only
>>>>> consequence is old application won't able to use new features those new enums
>>>>> provide but that is expected/normal.
>>>>
>>>> If library give higher value than expected by the application,
>>>> if the application uses this value as array index,
>>>> there can be an access out of bounds.
>>>
>>> [Fiona] All asymmetric APIs are experimental so above shouldn't be a problem.
>>> But for the same issue with sym crypto below, I believe Ferruh's explanation makes
>>> sense and I don't see how there can be an API breakage.
>>> So if an application hasn't compiled against the new lib it will be still using the old value
>>> which will be within bounds. If it's picking up the higher new value from the lib it must
>>> have been compiled against the lib so shouldn't have problems.
>>
>> You say there is no ABI issue because the application will be re-compiled
>> for the updated library. Indeed, compilation fixes compatibility issues.
>> But this is not relevant for ABI compatibility.
>> ABI compatibility means we can upgrade the library without recompiling
>> the application and it must work.
>> You think it is a false positive because you assume the application
>> "picks" the new value. I think you miss the case where the new value
>> is returned by a function in the upgraded library.
>>
>>> There are also no structs on the API which contain arrays using this
>>> for sizing, so I don't see an opportunity for an appl to have a
>>> mismatch in memory addresses.
>>
>> Let me demonstrate where the API may "use" the new value
>> RTE_CRYPTO_AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 and how it impacts the application.
>>
>> Once upon a time a DPDK application counting the number of devices
>> supporting each AEAD algo (in order to find the best supported algo).
>> It is done in an array indexed by algo id:
>> int aead_dev_count[RTE_CRYPTO_AEAD_LIST_END];
>> The application is compiled with DPDK 19.11,
>> where RTE_CRYPTO_AEAD_LIST_END = 3.
>> So the size of the application array aead_dev_count is 3.
>> This binary is run with DPDK 20.02,
>> where RTE_CRYPTO_AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 = 3.
>> When calling rte_cryptodev_info_get() on a device QAT_GEN3,
>> rte_cryptodev_info.capabilities.sym.aead.algo is set to
>> RTE_CRYPTO_AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 (= 3).
>> The application uses this value:
>> ++ aead_dev_count[info.capabilities.sym.aead.algo];
>> The application is crashing because of out of bound access.
>
> I'd say this is an example of bad written app.
> It probably should check that returned by library value doesn't
> exceed its internal array size.
+1
Application should ignore values >= MAX.
Do you suggest we don't extend any enum or define between ABI breakage releases
to be sure bad written applications not affected?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-03 9:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-20 15:20 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " David Marchand
2019-12-20 15:32 ` Richardson, Bruce
2019-12-20 16:20 ` Kinsella, Ray
2019-12-20 21:00 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-06 13:17 ` Aaron Conole
2020-01-15 13:07 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2020-01-14 23:19 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-15 11:33 ` Neil Horman
2020-01-15 12:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-16 11:52 ` Neil Horman
2020-01-16 14:20 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-16 18:49 ` Neil Horman
2020-01-16 20:01 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-17 19:01 ` Neil Horman
2020-01-17 21:26 ` David Marchand
2019-12-20 20:25 ` Neil Horman
2020-01-29 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] " David Marchand
2020-01-29 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] hash: fix meson headers packaging David Marchand
2020-01-30 10:12 ` Luca Boccassi
2020-01-30 10:54 ` David Marchand
2020-01-30 10:56 ` Luca Boccassi
2020-01-29 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] build: split build helper David Marchand
2020-01-29 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] build: test meson installation David Marchand
2020-01-29 17:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] add ABI checks David Marchand
2020-01-29 17:42 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-29 18:10 ` Anoob Joseph
2020-01-29 20:03 ` David Marchand
2020-01-29 20:13 ` Akhil Goyal
2020-01-30 16:09 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-01-30 20:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-31 9:03 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-01-31 10:26 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-01-31 14:16 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-02 13:05 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-02 14:41 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-02-03 9:30 ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2020-02-03 11:50 ` Neil Horman
2020-02-03 13:09 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-03 14:00 ` Dodji Seketeli
2020-02-03 14:46 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-03 15:08 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-03 17:09 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-03 17:34 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-03 18:55 ` Ray Kinsella
2020-02-03 21:07 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 9:46 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-04 10:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 12:44 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-04 15:52 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-04 15:59 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 17:46 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-13 14:51 ` Kusztal, ArkadiuszX
2020-03-16 12:57 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-03-16 13:09 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-03-17 13:27 ` Kusztal, ArkadiuszX
2020-03-17 15:10 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-03-17 19:10 ` Kusztal, ArkadiuszX
2020-02-04 12:57 ` Kevin Traynor
2020-02-04 14:44 ` Aaron Conole
2020-02-04 19:49 ` Neil Horman
2020-02-04 9:51 ` David Marchand
2020-02-04 10:10 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-04 10:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-05 11:10 ` Ray Kinsella
2020-02-03 17:40 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-03 18:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 9:19 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-04 9:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 9:56 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-02-04 10:08 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-02-04 10:17 ` Kevin Traynor
2020-02-04 10:16 ` Akhil Goyal
2020-02-04 10:28 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-04 10:32 ` Akhil Goyal
2020-02-04 11:35 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-02-04 22:10 ` Neil Horman
2020-02-05 6:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Anoob Joseph
2020-02-05 14:33 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-02-04 21:59 ` [dpdk-dev] " Neil Horman
2020-01-30 13:06 ` Trahe, Fiona
2020-01-30 15:59 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-30 16:42 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-01-30 23:49 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-01-31 9:07 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-01-31 9:37 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-01-30 10:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] " Luca Boccassi
2020-01-30 16:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " David Marchand
2020-01-30 16:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] hash: fix meson headers packaging David Marchand
2020-01-30 18:01 ` Wang, Yipeng1
2020-01-30 18:40 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-02-05 19:51 ` Wang, Yipeng1
2020-01-30 16:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] build: split build helper David Marchand
2020-01-30 16:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] build: test meson installation David Marchand
2020-01-30 22:17 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-01-30 16:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] add ABI checks David Marchand
2020-01-30 22:32 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-01 15:29 ` David Marchand
2020-01-30 22:44 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-02-02 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " David Marchand
2020-02-02 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] hash: fix meson headers packaging David Marchand
2020-02-05 19:53 ` Wang, Yipeng1
2020-02-02 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] build: split build helper David Marchand
2020-02-02 21:08 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] add ABI checks David Marchand
2020-02-05 14:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Thomas Monjalon
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