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* [PATCH] doc: update kernel version requirement
@ 2025-04-09  3:50 Stephen Hemminger
  2025-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2025-04-09  3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev; +Cc: Stephen Hemminger, Morten Brørup

The 4.19 kernel version was end of life in December 2024.
Update to 5.4 and also add better description of what "not supported"
means in this case.

Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
---
 doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst | 17 ++++++++++++-----
 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
index 5a7d9e4a43..cab198134b 100644
--- a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
+++ b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
@@ -105,11 +105,18 @@ System Software
 
 **Required:**
 
-*   Kernel version >= 4.19
-
-    The kernel version required is based on the oldest long term stable kernel available
-    at kernel.org when the DPDK version is in development.
-    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL/CentOS 7.
+*   Kernel version >= 5.4
+
+    The Linux userspace API is compatible across releases but there are some
+    restrictions. The oldest kernel tested by the DPDK testing infrastructure
+    is the oldest maintained Long Term Stable (LTS) at time of release.
+    The DPDK is likely to still work with older releases but it is not guaranteed.
+    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL, and Ubuntu.
+    It may work on older distributions, past End Of Life (EOL) like RHEL7
+    but this is no longer tested or guaranteed to work.
+
+    Some drivers and hardware support may require more recent kernels, check the
+    documentation (e.g. :doc:`../nics/index`)
 
     The kernel version in use can be checked using the command::
 
-- 
2.47.2


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* [PATCH v2] doc: update kernel version requirement
  2025-04-09  3:50 [PATCH] doc: update kernel version requirement Stephen Hemminger
@ 2025-04-10 15:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
  2025-07-21 10:45   ` Kevin Traynor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2025-04-10 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev; +Cc: Stephen Hemminger, Morten Brørup

The 4.19 kernel version was end of life in December 2024.
Update to 5.4 and also add better description of what "not supported"
means in this case.

Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
---
v2 - better wording

 doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst | 19 ++++++++++++++-----
 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
index 5a7d9e4a43..ba48b8afc0 100644
--- a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
+++ b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
@@ -105,11 +105,20 @@ System Software
 
 **Required:**
 
-*   Kernel version >= 4.19
-
-    The kernel version required is based on the oldest long term stable kernel available
-    at kernel.org when the DPDK version is in development.
-    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL/CentOS 7.
+*   Kernel version >= 5.4
+
+    The Linux userspace API is compatible across releases but there are some
+    restrictions. The oldest kernel tested by the DPDK testing infrastructure
+    is the oldest maintained Long Term Stable (LTS) at time of release.
+    The DPDK is likely to still work with older releases but it is not guaranteed.
+    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL, and Ubuntu.
+    It may work on older distributions, that are no longer under standard period
+    but this is no longer but this is no longer tested or guaranteed to work.
+    The following are outside the current support window: RHEL 7, SLES 15.5, Ubuntu 20.04
+    and earlier.
+
+    Some drivers and hardware support may require more recent kernels, check the
+    documentation (e.g. :doc:`../nics/index`)
 
     The kernel version in use can be checked using the command::
 
-- 
2.47.2


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* Re: [PATCH v2] doc: update kernel version requirement
  2025-04-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Stephen Hemminger
@ 2025-07-21 10:45   ` Kevin Traynor
  2025-07-21 17:39     ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Traynor @ 2025-07-21 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger, dev
  Cc: Morten Brørup, Thomas Monjalon, David Marchand, Luca Boccassi

On 10/04/2025 16:20, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> The 4.19 kernel version was end of life in December 2024.
> Update to 5.4 and also add better description of what "not supported"
> means in this case.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> ---
> v2 - better wording
> 
>  doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst | 19 ++++++++++++++-----
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> index 5a7d9e4a43..ba48b8afc0 100644
> --- a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> +++ b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> @@ -105,11 +105,20 @@ System Software
>  
>  **Required:**
>  
> -*   Kernel version >= 4.19
> -
> -    The kernel version required is based on the oldest long term stable kernel available
> -    at kernel.org when the DPDK version is in development.
> -    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL/CentOS 7.
> +*   Kernel version >= 5.4
> +
> +    The Linux userspace API is compatible across releases but there are some
> +    restrictions. The oldest kernel tested by the DPDK testing infrastructure
> +    is the oldest maintained Long Term Stable (LTS) at time of release.
> +    The DPDK is likely to still work with older releases but it is not guaranteed.

It's just word semantics, but I mentioned before, I don't like the use
of "guarantee" that is is implied for newer kernels.

We can simply say that older kernels are not tested with and/or that
DPDK is not maintained to keep compatibility with them etc.

> +    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL, and Ubuntu.
> +    It may work on older distributions, that are no longer under standard period
> +    but this is no longer but this is no longer tested or guaranteed to work.

"but this is no longer" is repeated

Again, it is implying there are "guarantees" for newer kernels

> +    The following are outside the current support window: RHEL 7, SLES 15.5, Ubuntu 20.04
> +    and earlier.
> +
> +    Some drivers and hardware support may require more recent kernels, check the
> +    documentation (e.g. :doc:`../nics/index`)
>  
>      The kernel version in use can be checked using the command::
>  

With some minor tweaks,
Acked-by: Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>


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* Re: [PATCH v2] doc: update kernel version requirement
  2025-07-21 10:45   ` Kevin Traynor
@ 2025-07-21 17:39     ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2025-07-21 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Hemminger
  Cc: dev, Morten Brørup, David Marchand, Luca Boccassi, Kevin Traynor

21/07/2025 12:45, Kevin Traynor:
> On 10/04/2025 16:20, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > The 4.19 kernel version was end of life in December 2024.
> > Update to 5.4 and also add better description of what "not supported"
> > means in this case.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > Acked-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > ---
> > v2 - better wording
> > 
> >  doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst | 19 ++++++++++++++-----
> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> > index 5a7d9e4a43..ba48b8afc0 100644
> > --- a/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> > +++ b/doc/guides/linux_gsg/sys_reqs.rst
> > @@ -105,11 +105,20 @@ System Software
> >  
> >  **Required:**
> >  
> > -*   Kernel version >= 4.19
> > -
> > -    The kernel version required is based on the oldest long term stable kernel available
> > -    at kernel.org when the DPDK version is in development.
> > -    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL/CentOS 7.
> > +*   Kernel version >= 5.4
> > +
> > +    The Linux userspace API is compatible across releases but there are some
> > +    restrictions. The oldest kernel tested by the DPDK testing infrastructure
> > +    is the oldest maintained Long Term Stable (LTS) at time of release.
> > +    The DPDK is likely to still work with older releases but it is not guaranteed.
> 
> It's just word semantics, but I mentioned before, I don't like the use
> of "guarantee" that is is implied for newer kernels.
> 
> We can simply say that older kernels are not tested with and/or that
> DPDK is not maintained to keep compatibility with them etc.
> 
> > +    Compatibility for recent distribution kernels will be kept, notably RHEL, and Ubuntu.
> > +    It may work on older distributions, that are no longer under standard period
> > +    but this is no longer but this is no longer tested or guaranteed to work.
> 
> "but this is no longer" is repeated
> 
> Again, it is implying there are "guarantees" for newer kernels
> 
> > +    The following are outside the current support window: RHEL 7, SLES 15.5, Ubuntu 20.04
> > +    and earlier.
> > +
> > +    Some drivers and hardware support may require more recent kernels, check the
> > +    documentation (e.g. :doc:`../nics/index`)
> >  
> >      The kernel version in use can be checked using the command::
> >  
> 
> With some minor tweaks,
> Acked-by: Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
> 
> 

Keeping only the non-controversial parts, not mentioning any distro or version:

*   Kernel version >= 5.4
    
    The Linux userspace API is compatible across releases
    but there are some restrictions.
    The oldest kernel tested by the DPDK testing infrastructure
    is the oldest maintained Long Term Stable (LTS) at time of release.
    
    Some drivers and hardware support may require more recent kernels,
    check the documentation.

Applied as minimal change.



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